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Trading One Year Assets is Inevitable. Maybe even 2-yr


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31 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said:

You might not be worried about saving payroll but after paying above average payrolls for a fee years now with weaker than anticipated gate revenues and very little playoff TV money, Jerry's limited partners and Jerry himself are less than thrilled with the ROI so payroll is a legitimate issue and undoubtedly will need to be slashed significantly from their POV.

Sure…but the point I’m making is that it changes nothing. We aren’t going to sign big free agents regardless, nor is the team in a position to sign veterans at this point. With the lack of viable talent in the organization worrying about the payroll is like worrying about a scratch on a car that has a blown engine. The payroll will be reduced naturally just because the team needs to be blown up and rebuilt, AGAIN.  

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1 hour ago, The Mighty Mite said:

Trade TA and someway somehow pry Taylor Walls from the Rays. TB needs starting pitching, maybe Gio for Walls and a prospect.

 

This is exactly the opposite of how TB operates.  Walls is a superior fielder,  surprisingly pesky hitter and young/cheap.

They'd want nothing to do with a one year rental... certainly not for Walls. 

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13 minutes ago, SouthSideGeorgia said:

19-30, 49 games played (30%), 7.0 games behind Twins, 59 games until trade deadline on Aug 1st. What will the Sox do?
 

What should the Sox do?

6.5 games back of Twins 

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20 minutes ago, SouthSideGeorgia said:

19-30, 49 games played (30%), 7.0 games behind Twins, 59 games until trade deadline on Aug 1st. What will the Sox do?
 

What should the Sox do?

Everyone who's contract expires this season is gone if teams will have them.

I wouldn't trade TA until the off-season. Would be stupid to trade him while his value is at its lowest point. Which means Hahn will probably trade him in the next 5-6 weeks

Hendriks will be dealt if he comes back and has some good outings

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19 minutes ago, joejoesox said:

Everyone who's contract expires this season is gone if teams will have them.

I wouldn't trade TA until the off-season. Would be stupid to trade him while his value is at its lowest point. Which means Hahn will probably trade him in the next 5-6 weeks

Hendriks will be dealt if he comes back and has some good outings


Agree. That would mean Giolito, Grandal (heck, trade him now before he slumps), Lopez and Middleton have some perceived value for different reasons. I doubt Andrus and Alberto can be moved at this point. 
 

Anderson should be considered for trading if the value is right, but he is at the lowest point of his career. Tough to move him mid-slump. 
 

Hendriks, Graveman, J. Kelly are all 2-year bullpen arms and might offer some interesting trade offers. Maybe. Not sure Lance Lynn offers any trade value. Or Clevinger (maybe more than Lynn). 

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If Joe Kelly keeps pitching like he has, he’s going to bring a very nice return if Sox are sellers.

I think Sox would need to be >7 GB in late July for this FO to sell. Not saying I agree with that, but don’t see them admitting failure and cutting bait unless they have no other option. 

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I hope Sox fans are prepared for what's about to happen by the deadline, we are walking into a multi year stretch of bad Sox baseball, like 2007 or worse. I for one can't wait to 'hate-watch' this dumpster fire, Brooks Boyer is gonna block a lot of people on Twitter. 

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This might be insane, but I want to see us play this season through. At this point? Just f**k it. You invested everything and years upon years into this “window”. The division is going to be within our grasp come late July, IMO. Just go try and win it. Not saying mortgage anything, but why tear it down now? Just see what happens…

5.5 games back in a bad division with the worst of our schedule potentially out of the way and 111 freakin games left. Just… go give it your all one last time. Maybe the impossible happens and we stay healthy. 

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4 minutes ago, Richie said:

This might be insane, but I want to see us play this season through. At this point? Just f**k it. You invested everything and years upon years into this “window”. The division is going to be within our grasp come late July, IMO. Just go try and win it. Not saying mortgage anything, but why tear it down now? Just see what happens…

Then offer Giolito a QO? 

Obviously they won't risk that with Grandal...or Lopez. 

Then Lynn and Clevinger are shrugging face emojis for 2024. 

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On 5/23/2023 at 9:53 AM, joejoesox said:

I hope Sox fans are prepared for what's about to happen by the deadline, we are walking into a multi year stretch of bad Sox baseball, like 2007 or worse. I for one can't wait to 'hate-watch' this dumpster fire, Brooks Boyer is gonna block a lot of people on Twitter. 

Just slash your wrists but first off with your fingers. 

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