compared to any MLB "outfielder"

 

"Based on the opportunities Acuña has seen -- here we're talking his position in the grass, the runner's speed and position, etc. -- an average outfielder would have expected runners to advance 38% of the time. Against Acuña, they only do it 32% of the time. (The other end of that: Chicago’s Gavin Sheets, who has seen similar opportunities, in that the expectation is a 36% advance rate, but has actually seen runners go 43% of the time on him.)"

https://www.mlb.com/news/most-valuable-outfielder-throwing-arms-of-2023

It's almost as if hes like a 1B or something. 

I haven't been watching games most of the year, so I didn't know he was still playing the OF so much. 45 freaking games in the OF? This org is such a joke. 

A wRC+ of 82 (89 against RHP) and -4.1 runs below average (position adjustment included) with the glove so far. -.2 fWAR.  This is the type of player only the Sox keep around. A smart franchise would have flipped him in the offseason for a A ball lotto ticket and figured it out otherwise.

22 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

A wRC+ of 82 (89 against RHP) and -4.1 runs below average (position adjustment included) with the glove so far. -.2 fWAR.  This is the type of player only the Sox keep around. A smart franchise would have flipped him in the offseason for a A ball lotto ticket and figured it out otherwise.

But who are they going to flip him to? WE'RE the dumb franchise that the smart franchises trade their chaff to.

Well, there goes his chances for a Gold Glove.

Gavin Sheets does not need to be tendered a contract for 2024.  

So he's a no-bat DH then? Wonder who can use one of those...

Of all of the things that could be said about Gavins Sheets, this is probably the least surprising.  This is what happens when you play a bad hitting DH in RF. 

What's actually ironic is that Eloy Jiménez has had 9 runners advance on him out of 21 chances. This totals...43%.

13 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

What's actually ironic is that Eloy Jiménez has had 9 runners advance on him out of 21 chances. This totals...43%.

It’s not ironic, he stinks out there too

9 minutes ago, T R U said:

It’s not ironic, he stinks out there too

It's like raaaaaaaaaaiiiiin, on your wedding dayyyyyyyyyy, the freeeee advise that you just didn't take....

Edited July 18, 20232 yr by chitownsportsfan

14 hours ago, ron883 said:

I haven't been watching games most of the year, so I didn't know he was still playing the OF so much. 45 freaking games in the OF? This org is such a joke. 

They need his bat in the lineup. 

Trade Eloy and Sheets to the Rays for Josh Lowe. 

I don’t know if I’m reading too much into this but I feel like this indicates Gavin might not be a good defensive outfielder. Has Rick seen this?

I’ll give Sheets some credit for doing a decent job lately in right field but Colas should be in right field every game for the rest of the year, he had 2 hits Saturday night with some nice plays in the field but Sunday he’s on the bench with Eloy taking his place who then gets hurt and replaced by Sheets, I don’t get it except that Grifol is probably an idiot.

 

Edited July 18, 20232 yr by The Mighty Mite

52 minutes ago, The Mighty Mite said:

I’ll give Sheets some credit for doing a decent job lately in right field but Colas should be in right field every game for the rest of the year, he had 2 hits Saturday night with some nice plays in the field but Sunday he’s on the bench with Eloy taking his place who then gets hurt and replaced by Sheets, I don’t get it except that Grifol is probably an idiot.

 

Yes, Colas should be in right field for the remainder of the year. In 2024, Eloy and Sheets should not be on this team.

Javy Baez basically benches self despite being better than Anderson on offense and clearly defense....

 

"The 30-year-old, whose defense at shortstop ranks in the 99th percentile for outs above average this season, is hitting .220 with six home runs, 13 walks and 84 strikeouts in 88 games, posting a career-worst .321 slugging percentage. His 57 wRC+ ranks second-to-last — ahead of only Chicago White Sox shortstop Tim Anderson — among 150 qualified position players."

"Two years ago, Báez launched 31 home runs with an .494 slugging percentage in 502 at-bats for the Chicago Cubs and New York Mets. Since joining the Tigers, Báez has 23 home runs with a .365 slugging percentage in 901 at-bats."

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/first-time-detroit-tigers-javier-101609926.html

Edited July 18, 20232 yr by caulfield12

1 hour ago, bmags said:

I don’t know if I’m reading too much into this but I feel like this indicates Gavin might not be a good defensive outfielder. Has Rick seen this?

Nah, Hahn doesn't need any stats or reports, he just goes by his genius gut level feelings, like he did in the June 2017 draft, when he used a #2 pick #49 overall to select 1B Gavin Sheets. Hahn's genius was simple...he figured the Sox desperately needed a slow DH/1B, even though they already had Jose Abreu on the roster. Btw, Jose in 2017 was only having one of his killer years again with no sign of slowing up by putting up: .304/.354/.552/.906 along with 33 HR, 43 2B 102 RBI. Yep that's our genius Hahn playing checkers when the other GM's are playing chess.

18 minutes ago, Highland said:

Yes, Colas should be in right field for the remainder of the year. In 2024, Eloy and Sheets should not be on this team.

Eloy at least has shown high end offensive production but sheets is a leury level platoon without avg defense.

23 minutes ago, The Kids Can Play said:

Nah, Hahn doesn't need any stats or reports, he just goes by his genius gut level feelings, like he did in the June 2017 draft, when he used a #2 pick #49 overall to select 1B Gavin Sheets. Hahn's genius was simple...he figured the Sox desperately needed a slow DH/1B, even though they already had Jose Abreu on the roster. Btw, Jose in 2017 was only having one of his killer years again with no sign of slowing up by putting up: .304/.354/.552/.906 along with 33 HR, 43 2B 102 RBI. Yep that's our genius Hahn playing checkers when the other GM's are playing chess.

1B/DHs held in 2017: Abreu, Burger, Davidson, Eloy, Mercedes, Sheets.

Additional 1B/DHs acquired 2018-2022: Yonder Alonso, Grandal, Parrot, Vaughn.

Edited July 18, 20232 yr by South Side Hit Men

On 7/17/2023 at 4:26 PM, caulfield12 said:

compared to any MLB "outfielder"

 

"Based on the opportunities Acuña has seen -- here we're talking his position in the grass, the runner's speed and position, etc. -- an average outfielder would have expected runners to advance 38% of the time. Against Acuña, they only do it 32% of the time. (The other end of that: Chicago’s Gavin Sheets, who has seen similar opportunities, in that the expectation is a 36% advance rate, but has actually seen runners go 43% of the time on him.)"

https://www.mlb.com/news/most-valuable-outfielder-throwing-arms-of-2023

43% vs. 36%.  That settles it.  Case closed.

Edited July 19, 20232 yr by Stinky Stanky

On 7/18/2023 at 9:19 AM, The Kids Can Play said:

Nah, Hahn doesn't need any stats or reports, he just goes by his genius gut level feelings, like he did in the June 2017 draft, when he used a #2 pick #49 overall to select 1B Gavin Sheets. Hahn's genius was simple...he figured the Sox desperately needed a slow DH/1B, even though they already had Jose Abreu on the roster. Btw, Jose in 2017 was only having one of his killer years again with no sign of slowing up by putting up: .304/.354/.552/.906 along with 33 HR, 43 2B 102 RBI. Yep that's our genius Hahn playing checkers when the other GM's are playing chess.

Gavin was a somewhat questionable pick but six years later we can see that all questions have been resolved.