4 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Why not fire Grifol and install Sizemore?  Get a preview of how handles the job for three to four months and see if there is any chance he can be the guy.  It’s going to be hard to convince a quality manager to come here so need to be a bit creative and should take advantage of this lost season.

Yeah why not.

Grady Sizemore might be the more "relateable, younger" coach that might help resonate with the players.  The "old-school hardass" such as Grifol and Montoyo has failed.

Montoyo at least seemed to make an impression on Luis Robert.

I'd personally go with Jirschelle. Let him make some mistakes, and have some growing pains. Make sure he isn't Pedro Jr. when the team has the horses to win.

I am team Sergio Santos. Also, they need to find a Brian Bannister for hitting. You look at how smart teams like the Brewers improve their scrap heap guys and you think the Sox have got to be better.

48 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

I'd personally go with Jirschelle. Let him make some mistakes, and have some growing pains. Make sure he isn't Pedro Jr. when the team has the horses to win.

For the record one of the things held against Pedro is that the Royals passes on hiring him twice.   The Sox have passed on Jirschelle at least twice now.  Three times if you count Ricky's hire.

3 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

For the record one of the things held against Pedro is that the Royals passes on hiring him twice.   The Sox have passed on Jirschelle at least twice now.  Three times if you count Ricky's hire.

He is 33 years old.  The next hire would be the first where I would say they passed on him.  Maybe they didn't think he was ready to win in this window. 

 

 

Everyone on Twitter/X is saying this is Pedro's burner. All I did was follow the account and got blocked, LOL.

*Update* Now the account is limiting who can view their posts, lol.

Edited May 30, 20241 yr by DaGame

5 minutes ago, DaGame said:

Everyone on Twitter/X is saying this is Pedro's burner. All I did was follow the account and got blocked, LOL.

*Update* Now the account is limiting who can view their posts, lol.

The account is still public, but I am pretty sure that isn't him.  It might be someone close to him, but one of the racial posts doesn't make sense.  Plus this.

Just now, southsider2k5 said:

The account is still public, but I am pretty sure that isn't him.  It might be someone close to him, but one of the racial posts doesn't make sense.  Plus this.

He also seems to really like WSMIke, which probably is more telling as to who he is than anything.

"I don't even come close to looking at the internet" - Pedro Grifol, probably definitely 

https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2024/05/30/whats-left-for-a-15-42-white-sox-team-pedro-grifol-reinsdorf

 

 

 

8 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

 

 

 

If he truly won't change, it means they don't want him to change.

“I feel fortunate that I work for an owner like Jerry,” Grifol said Wednesday before a 3-1 loss to the Toronto Blue Jays at Guaranteed Rate Field. “I just think that he’s been in this game for 44-45 years, and he’s a baseball guy. I’m fortunate to have the opportunity to work for him and wear this uniform with them. So I’m grateful to be here.”

I have no problem with firing Grifol, but he only symbolizes the problems the team is having. This is not a Major League franchise. 

39 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

“I feel fortunate that I work for an owner like Jerry,” Grifol said Wednesday before a 3-1 loss to the Toronto Blue Jays at Guaranteed Rate Field. “I just think that he’s been in this game for 44-45 years, and he’s a baseball guy. I’m fortunate to have the opportunity to work for him and wear this uniform with them. So I’m grateful to be here.”

Don't think I've ever seen a guy yet alone a manager kiss so much ass like this guy.

2 hours ago, Dick Allen said:

“I feel fortunate that I work for an owner like Jerry,” Grifol said Wednesday before a 3-1 loss to the Toronto Blue Jays at Guaranteed Rate Field. “I just think that he’s been in this game for 44-45 years, and he’s a baseball guy. I’m fortunate to have the opportunity to work for him and wear this uniform with them. So I’m grateful to be here.”

Of course he's grateful, no other team would hire him as manager not even the Royals!

Among the negatives surrounding the White Sox, there are a couple of eye-openers.

First, Andrew Benintendi -- a career .271 hitter and a fine outfielder and baserunner in a nine-year major league career for four teams -- is the worst player in baseball in 2024 when it comes to wins above replacement, according to Fangraphs WAR (-1.7).

Then, the White Sox just suffered their first winless homestand of seven games or more in franchise history -- and this is a franchise that dates to 1901. They've lost eight straight and 12 of the past 13.

Chicago manager Pedro Grifol didn't have much analysis after the White Sox's 3-1 loss to the Toronto Blue Jays on Wednesday dropped the team to 15-42.

"Fifteen and forty-whatever is tough," Grifol said. "I don't break it down that much to 0-7, the first one in history ... I break it down that today we didn't win a baseball game."

 

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It’s been a bad year from a managerial standpoint. They probably should let somebody else take charge. Loss today and we’re 30 under .500 on June 2nd.

On 5/30/2024 at 12:02 PM, southsider2k5 said:

For the record one of the things held against Pedro is that the Royals passes on hiring him twice.   The Sox have passed on Jirschelle at least twice now.  Three times if you count Ricky's hire.

But it would take someone a year to understand the organization . . . Lol

The best hope is JR somehow loses interest in the organization and turns over the chairmanship to someone, anyone else. Hire a had of baseball operations from outside the organization and empty the offices. Move the offices, get rid of all the old stuff and move on. Then allow them to hire a manager. 

 

Williams and Hahn to my knowledge haven't even been sniffed at by any other MLB team since they got fired. Neither will Grifol. 

On 6/1/2024 at 12:31 AM, caulfield12 said:

"...I break it down that today we didn't win a baseball game."

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Pedro taking things day by day.  Put the past behind you.

Leadership. 

Also fire Remillard. He isn't good enough to get a pass on all the damage he's done.

Grifol will be gone soon enough. Just no Ozzie Guillen. Ever.