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3 minutes ago, Rowand44 said:

It'd be one thing if he had a legit reason to be mad but dude is just whiny cause Contreras got excited about a big play in the game.  Also the fake tough guy routine is always hilarious to me.

Choice Tommy Pham quotes.

On slapping Joc

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"There was some s*** that went on in fantasy, but what he forgot to tell you guys he said some disrespectful s*** in a text message and I called him out on it. It was regarding my former team ... I didn't like that and I didn't like the sketchy s*** going on in the fantasy. You have too much money on the line, so I look at it like there's a code. F***ing with my money and you're going to say some disrespectful s***, there's a code to this."

Dude has always been a clown. He's just a clown that's been on an incredible hot streak with one of (if not the) worst teams in MLB history.

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7 minutes ago, Rowand44 said:

It'd be one thing if he had a legit reason to be mad but dude is just whiny cause Contreras got excited about a big play in the game.  Also the fake tough guy routine is always hilarious to me.

I mean if anyone should have been mad it was Contreras.  He just took an illegal hit.  But he just ran off to the dugout without a care in the world.  If Tommy wants to be mad, go fight the problem.

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33 minutes ago, Rowand44 said:

It'd be one thing if he had a legit reason to be mad but dude is just whiny cause Contreras got excited about a big play in the game.  Also the fake tough guy routine is always hilarious to me.

I feel like Pham is one of the few where it's not a fake tough guy routine at all. Dude is intense and I think actually wants to fight.

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45 minutes ago, Quin said:

Choice Tommy Pham quotes.

On slapping Joc

Dude has always been a clown. He's just a clown that's been on an incredible hot streak with one of (if not the) worst teams in MLB history.

I'm calling BS on the high roller at many casinos statement. True high rollers do not make announcements like that on social media. 

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Really starting to feel like this guy isn't getting fired in season and hes just doing what Getz is instructing.

There's just no scenario where a professional sports team looks at this disaster and doesn't make a change in leadership.

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3 minutes ago, T R U said:

Really starting to feel like this guy isn't getting fired in season and hes just doing what Getz is instructing.

There's just no scenario where a professional sports team looks at this disaster and doesn't make a change in leadership.

Looks remarkably like the Jim Boylen bulls era does it not?

 

huh wonder who was at the top of that pile of s%*# 

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18 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said:

Williams and Hahn to my knowledge haven't even been sniffed at by any other MLB team since they got fired. Neither will Grifol. 

 It seems like that is a trend in sports when people get fired they don't get hired again. New is in,

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38 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:

Looks remarkably like the Jim Boylen bulls era does it not?

 

huh wonder who was at the top of that pile of s%*# 

Shades of it for sure. Sad thing is that awful Bulls team had some talent. This Sox team, well, I dunno. Rotten all around.

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11 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

Shades of it for sure. Sad thing is that awful Bulls team had some talent. This Sox team, well, I dunno. Rotten all around.

The end result will be the same, hugely embarrassing team with no real direction going forward, and a lot of really really awful quotes and incidents 

edit: I have to account for sin city Sox fans theory that we will run the table til the title so the above is a -likely- scenario

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1 hour ago, Kyyle23 said:

Looks remarkably like the Jim Boylen bulls era does it not?

 

huh wonder who was at the top of that pile of s%*# 

I think Boylen gets too much s%*# for what is ultimately Hoiberg's failure. He only became the coach because players were going to him instead of their head coach for in-game adjustments. You look at what "legendary coach" Billy Donovan has done and I'd argue he's just as bad, maybe worse than Boylen. At least Boylen got something out of future all-star Lauri Markkanen by actually letting him touch the ball. Pretty much every player has regressed under Donovan besides DeRozan, and improved when they left the team.

I don't think there's an analogy for Grifol, it was just a stupid hire all around. He's supposed to be a player's coach except everyone seems to hates him. Eddie Rodriguez is a specific problem that Pedro should be blamed for. Rodriguez doesn't have any idea when a good time to send a player is. We've seen the multitude of times he's sent the runner in a stupid situation (how about trying to send Maldonado coming from first base when Correa's holding the ball at the grass), what about all the runners he hasn't sent? I can think of at least two, and the Sox don't often have a runner on or rounding third base. This is literally the coaching staff squandering runs, it's about the only things they can actually control are these signs and bullpen decisions. I hate the 'aggressive style of play' on the base paths for this team, it's generally dumb baseball, it's  especially so with this collection of unathletic, old players. 

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16 minutes ago, nrockway said:

I think Boylen gets too much s%*# for what is ultimately Hoiberg's failure. He only became the coach because players were going to him instead of their head coach for in-game adjustments. You look at what "legendary coach" Billy Donovan has done and I'd argue he's just as bad, maybe worse than Boylen. At least Boylen got something out of future all-star Lauri Markkanen by actually letting him touch the ball. Pretty much every player has regressed under Donovan besides DeRozan, and improved when they left the team.

I don't think there's an analogy for Grifol, it was just a stupid hire all around. He's supposed to be a player's coach except everyone seems to hates him. Eddie Rodriguez is a specific problem that Pedro should be blamed for. Rodriguez doesn't have any idea when a good time to send a player is. We've seen the multitude of times he's sent the runner in a stupid situation (how about trying to send Maldonado coming from first base when Correa's holding the ball at the grass), what about all the runners he hasn't sent? I can think of at least two, and the Sox don't often have a runner on or rounding third base. This is literally the coaching staff squandering runs, it's about the only things they can actually control are these signs and bullpen decisions. I hate the 'aggressive style of play' on the base paths for this team, it's generally dumb baseball, it's  especially so with this collection of unathletic, old players. 

lol I couldn’t disagree with this enough

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1 hour ago, Kyyle23 said:

lol I couldn’t disagree with this enough

he was an interim coach for a season and a half on a tanking team. had basically the same winning percentage as Hoiberg. Donovan has had one .500+ season in his tenure with a roster ostensibly built to win. He mismanaged several players who have gone on to have great careers on different teams. I don't see a difference between Donovan and Boylen except that one is a slick talker and the other is a buffoon. 

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1 hour ago, nrockway said:

he was an interim coach for a season and a half on a tanking team. had basically the same winning percentage as Hoiberg. Donovan has had one .500+ season in his tenure with a roster ostensibly built to win. He mismanaged several players who have gone on to have great careers on different teams. I don't see a difference between Donovan and Boylen except that one is a slick talker and the other is a buffoon. 

Donovan has more accomplishments in his little pinky than Boylen will have in his entire lifetime.  You are sitting here defending a national embarrassment who installed a punch clock in the wall and talked in cliches his entire time and was ushered out shortly after everyone realized that not only was he hurting the vets but he was hurting the rookies too.  It’s hilarious that you point to Markannen as some sort of a feather in his cap like Lauri was showing all those chops under Boylen and then regressed terribly under Billy lmao.
 

And if you want to say that Pedro’s failure is shared by TLR like you are bagging on Hoiberg, I’m fine with that too

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2 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

"I've known Jerry for a year and a half," Grifol said to Daryl Van Schouwen of the Chicago Sun-Times. "Nobody wants to win more than he does. I know that for a fact because I'm the one who gets phone calls, and I talk to him. I get text messages. He is 100% committed to winning. And he is extremely knowledgeable about the game of baseball."

Given how he has run this franchise into the ground if he was as smart as he thinks he is, JR would absolutely stay in the owners box, sign the checks and literally have nothing at all to do with ANY baseball on-field decisions. 

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38 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

Given how he has run this franchise into the ground if he was as smart as he thinks he is, JR would absolutely stay in the owners box, sign the checks and literally have nothing at all to do with ANY baseball on-field decisions. 

I am really curious as to what JR could possibly be communicating to Grifol when the Sox are this epically bad.

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2 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

I am really curious as to what JR could possibly be communicating to Grifol when the Sox are this epically bad.

“You’re doing me a service, Pedro. Keep it up. I don’t mind because it takes the focus off of me and onto you. Don’t get too comfortable and don’t worry about turning this around.”

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2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

I have heard worse ideas for sure.

Or at least promote him to coach. He's an asset for the pitchers and a mentor for Lee, but a complete waste of a spot in the lineup. If you could DH for him instead of the pitcher, I'd be tempted to try that.

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