December 21, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said: We could definitely use a rumor right about now. f***, I’ll even take a Morosi nugget…just give us something to discuss. Not Cease, but Sox are out on Rodriguez
December 21, 20232 yr 7 minutes ago, bmags said: Really? They have such a good rotation already But they have also offered Yamamoto a $250M+ deal. I guess you could shop someone though.
December 21, 20232 yr Author 24 minutes ago, fathom said: Not Cease, but Sox are out on Rodriguez Bummer…obviously I’m going off second hand scouting reports, but he felt like a gamble worth taking.
December 21, 20232 yr 10 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Bummer…obviously I’m going off second hand scouting reports, but he felt like a gamble worth taking. Depends on the size of the gamble. Need to see the contract.
December 21, 20232 yr 49 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: But they have also offered Yamamoto a $250M+ deal. I guess you could shop someone though. missed that, good point.
December 21, 20232 yr Author 49 minutes ago, ptatc said: Depends on the size of the gamble. Need to see the contract. That’s a good point. With this market, it’s possible he gets much more than I’m anticipating which is around 5/$40M (which is already a gamble).
December 21, 20232 yr 23 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: That’s a good point. With this market, it’s possible he gets much more than I’m anticipating which is around 5/$40M (which is already a gamble). Also might be with Colas likely on the way out and Grandal history...with Moncada going in that direction, Vera scuffling with injuries, that they are reassessing the ROI on the Cuban Connection. At least for the type of money being bandied about for these starting pitchers. Obviously they brought in Cousin...but that was the very bottom of the market. What direction Getz can go in to make his own personal imprint is unknown...other than speed defense athleticism. If that's the case they should sign Kiermaier for the OF on the cheap. Edited December 21, 20232 yr by caulfield12
December 21, 20232 yr 5 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Also might be with Colas likely on the way out and Grandal history...with Moncada going in that direction, Vera scuffling with injuries, that they are reassessing the ROI on the Cuban Connection. At least for the type of money being bandied about for these starting pitchers. Obviously they brought in Cousin...but that was the very bottom of the market. What direction Getz can go in to make his own personal imprint is unknown...other than speed defense athleticism. If that's the case they should sign Kiermaier for the OF on the cheap. The State of the Union for Cuban White Sox remains very strong. Cuban Connection Position Player fWAR 2019-2023 Cubans vs. Non Cubans 2019 7.1 (JA, YM) 4.2 2020 5.1 (JA, YM, LR Jr.) 8.2 2021 9.9 (JA, YM, LR Jr.) 12.9 2022 6.8 (JA, YM, LR Jr.) 8.1 2023 6.2 (YM & LR Jr.) vs. -2.9 Total Cubans 35.1 vs. 30.5 Everyone Else
December 21, 20232 yr 4 hours ago, Rusty_Kuntz said: I mentioned the Phillies a while back. They could offer a great package but they have a solid five man rotation already, iirc. Wheeler, Walker, Nola, Suarez, and Sanchez. The first four are obvious, and Sanchez broke out as a starter last year. Not sure I’d pencil Walker in there….def not at #2. He didn’t touch the field in the playoffs and he also had some negative comments about the team in the media after the season. Wouldn’t surprise if he wasn’t on the team.
December 21, 20232 yr 23 minutes ago, TheFutureIsNear said: Not sure I’d pencil Walker in there….def not at #2. He didn’t touch the field in the playoffs and he also had some negative comments about the team in the media after the season. Wouldn’t surprise if he wasn’t on the team. I didn't put them in order, he'd probably be #4. I doubt he isn't with them this season but I suppose it's possible. Tough to give up a dude who made 31 starts and pitched 170 innings in this era.
December 21, 20232 yr 4 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: We could definitely use a rumor right about now. f***, I’ll even take a Morosi nugget…just give us something to discuss. We could talk about all the guys we’re “out” on?
December 21, 20232 yr 4 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: Bummer…obviously I’m going off second hand scouting reports, but he felt like a gamble worth taking. The White Sox see him as a reliever
December 22, 20232 yr 4 hours ago, dohnut said: We could talk about all the guys we’re “out” on? Remember when we all stupidly believed the Sox might sign a star player in their prime? Those were the days.
December 22, 20232 yr 38 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: Remember when we all stupidly believed the Sox might sign a star player in their prime? Those were the days. The closest was Adam Dunn, David Robertson and Liam Hendriks...other than Albert Belle, obviously. Unless you want to count Jose Abreu and Luis Robert, Jr.???
December 22, 20232 yr Author Seems like this thing could wrap up in the next day or two with teams actually being eliminated from the bidding
December 22, 20232 yr I wish Getzie would hurry up and trade him for Gods sake, this thread alone has to take up at least 50% of the internet
December 22, 20232 yr 51 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Unless you want to count Jose Abreu Definitely counts as "signed in prime"
December 22, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, Grindersrule said: Definitely counts as "signed in prime" It was kind of a stealth signing in a way ... only a couple of teams in on him. In some ways, the Robert deal seemed more momentous. The Sox actually beat the Cardinals at something for once, after always missing out on targets.
December 22, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, Tnetennba said: Remember when we all stupidly believed the Sox might sign a star player in their prime? Those were the days. Don't think they've done that to a player not on the team since Albert Belle.
December 22, 20232 yr 12 minutes ago, ptatc said: Don't think they've done that to a player not on the team since Albert Belle. As far as star free agent acquisitions, he might be the last. As sad as that is.
December 22, 20232 yr Snell possibly down to Giants and Angels Edited December 22, 20232 yr by fathom
December 22, 20232 yr This reminds me of that offseason we anticipated Quintana being traded then he wasn’t. Hahn held onto him and got Eloy/Cease at the all star break. Could happen with Cease.
December 22, 20232 yr 9 minutes ago, fathom said: Snell possibly down to Giants and Angels I thought he wanted to go to the Mariners.
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