South Side Hit Men Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 28 players met the criteria, 26 players listed on the 2024 ballot. Baseball Writers HOF Ballot 2023 Vote % Primary Position Player Ballot # (JAWS) Games Played by Club Average HOF JAWS: C (16) 44.2; 1B (24) 53.4; 2B (20) 57.0; 3B (16) 55.8; SS (23) 55.4; LF (21) 53.4; CF (19) 58.1; RF (28) 56.7; SP (66) 61.4; RP (8) 29.7 72.2% 1B Todd Helton 6th (54.2 15th) Colorado 2,247 68.1% RP Billy Wagner 9th (24.9 6th) Houston 464; New York N. L. 183; Philadelphia 120; Atlanta 71; Boston 15. 58.1% CF Andruw Jones 7th (54.6 11th) Atlanta 1,761; New York A. L. 171; Chicago A. L. 107; Texas 82; Los Angeles N. L. 75 55.0% RF Gary Sheffield 10th (49.3 24th) Florida 558; Los Angeles N. L. 526; New York A. L. 347; Milwaukee 294; Atlanta 290; Detroit 247; San Diego 214; New York N. L 100. 46.5% CF Carlos Beltran 2nd (57.3 9th) New York N. L. 839; Kansas City 795; New York A. L. 341; Saint Louis 296; Houston 219; Texas 52; San Francisco 44. 35.7% SS Alex Rodriguez 3rd (90.9 2nd) New York A. L. 1,509; Seattle 790; Texas 485 33.2% LF Manny Ramirez 8th (54.6 10th) Boston 1,083; Cleveland 967; Los Angeles N. L. 223; Chicago A. L. 24; Tampa Bay 5. 19.5% SS Omar Vizquel 7th (36.2 46th) Cleveland 1,478; Seattle 660; San Francisco 542; Chicago A. L. 166; Texas 62; Toronto 60 17.0% SP Andy Petitte 6th (47.2 81st) New York A. L. 557; Houston 84. 15.4% RF Bobby Abreu 5th (50.9 21st) Philadelphia 1,353; Los Angeles A. L. 456; New York A. L. 372; Los Angeles N. L. 92; New York N. L. 78; Houston 74. 12.9% SS Jimmy Rollins 3rd (40.1 34th) Philadelphia 2,090; Los Angeles N. L. 144; Chicago A. L. 41. 10.8% SP Mark Buehrle 4th (47.4 78th) Chicago A. L. 390; Toronto 97; Miami 31. 10.8% RP Francisco Rodriguez 2nd (21.1 12th) Los Angeles A. L. 408; Milwaukee 263; New York N. L. 165; Detroit 89; Baltimore 23. 6.9% CF Torii Hunter 4th (40.7 35th) Minnesota 1,373; Los Angeles A. L. 713; Detroit 286. 2024 RF Jose Bautista 1st (37.5 50th) Toronto 1,235; Pittsburgh 400; New York N. L. 83; Philadelphia 27; Baltimore 16; Kansas City 13; Tampa Bay 12; Atlanta 12. 2024 3B Adrian Beltre 1st (71.1 4th) Texas 1,098; Los Angeles N. L. 966; Seattle 715; Boston 154. 2024 SP Bartolo Colon 1st (40.9 130th) Cleveland 162; New York N. L. 98; Los Angeles A. L. 96; Oakland 54; Chicago A. L. 46; New York A. L. 29; Texas 28; Montreal 17; Minnesota 13; Atlanta 13; Boston 7. 2024 1B Adrian Gonzalez 1st (39.1 40th) San Diego 799; Los Angeles N. L. 735; Boston 282; Texas 59; New York N. L. 54. 2024 LF Matt Holliday 1st (39.4 36th) Saint Louis 982; Colorado 723; New York A. L. 105; Oakland 93. 2024 C Victor Martinez 1st (30.5 31st) Detroit 969; Cleveland 821; Boston 183. 2024 C Joe Mauer 1st (47.1 7th) Minnesota 1,858. 2024 2B Brandon Phillips 1st (26.6 70th) Cincinnati 1,614; Cleveland 135; Atlanta 120; Los Angeles A. L. 24; Boston 9. 2024 SS Jose Reyes 1st (33.4 57th) New York N. L. 1,365; Toronto 305; Miami 160; Colorado 47. 2024 SP James Shields 1st (29.4 266th) Tampa Bay 218; Chicago A. L. 77; Kansas City 68; San Diego 44. 2024 2B Chase Utley 1st (56.9 12th) Philadelphia 1,551; Los Angeles N. L. 386. 2024 3B David Wright 1st (44.3 26th) New York N. L. 1585. Otherwise Eligible Players Omitted from the 2024 Ballot 2024 RP Jim Johnson 1st (5.9 244th) Baltimore 360; Atlanta 175; Los Angeles A. L. 62; Oakland 38; Los Angeles N. L. 23; Detroit 16. 2024 RP Brad Ziegler 1st (12.4 62nd) Arizona 377; Oakland 223; Miami 106; Boston 33. Contemporary Baseball Era Ballot 2024 Manager Cito Gaston 894-837 .516 World Series Championships (1992, 1993) 2024 Manager Davey Johnson 1,372-1071-2 .562 World Series Champions (1986) 2024 Manager Jim Leyland 1,769-1,728-2 .506 World Series Champions (1997) & American League Pennants (2006 & 2012) 2024 Umpire Ed Montague 2024 Executive Hank Peters 2024 Manager Lou Piniella 1,835-1,713 .517 World Series Champions (1990) 2024 Umpire Joe West 2024 Executive Bill White Ford Frick Broadcasting Ballot 2024 Joe Buck 2024 Joe Castiglione 2024 Gary Cohen 2024 Jacques Doucet 2024 Tom Hamilton 2024 Ernie Johnson Senior 2024 Ken Korach 2024 Mike Krukow 2024 Duane Kuiper 2024 Dan Shulman 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted November 20, 2023 Author Share Posted November 20, 2023 My Ballots: BBWAA Carlos Beltran Adrian Beltre Todd Helton Andruw Jones Joe Mauer Alex Rodriguez Contemporary Era Davey Johnson Ed Montague Ford Frick Gary Cohen Jacques Doucet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Would never vote for a guy after suspended post Mitchell Report. Beltran, Beltre, Buehrle, Helton, Hunter, Jones, Mauer, Rollins, Utley, Wagner Was never really a Jones or Wagner supporter, but they’re close enough that I would probably check them if I actually had a vote. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Helton, Beltre, Wagner.... Beltran should be in but not sure if the cheating thing will hurt. I think Andruw will eventually get in. Torii might have somewhat of a case in the future 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Tell you what Bobby Abreu had a real solid carrer too. Maybe Hall of Very good tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Is there a James Shields super pac? I suppose we missed the salad days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 Which cap would Colon wear? I was surprised that Joe Buck wasn't already honored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted November 22, 2023 Author Share Posted November 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, Texsox said: Which cap would Colon wear? I was surprised that Joe Buck wasn't already honored. There is only one option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 Without looking it up if he did make it he must hold the record for playing for the most teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 7 ex-Sox... and mostly for a season or a half season. That's an impressive number of "that guy DID play for us" guys for one team on one ballot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 Shields somehow getting in then wearing a Sox hat would be the funniest thing ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted November 23, 2023 Author Share Posted November 23, 2023 12 hours ago, JoeC said: 7 ex-Sox... and mostly for a season or a half season. That's an impressive number of "that guy DID play for us" guys for one team on one ballot. Per usual, and in true Jerry Reinsdorf fashion, most of these players were all acquired at the end of their careers. Three of the seven active ballot players earned a negative bWAR with the Chicago White Sox over six collective seasons. Frank Thomas is the only inducted player acquired by Jerry Reinsdorf in his 20s. Current Ballot White Sox career bWAR / Player / Age & Years on the White Sox 48.9 Mark Buehrle 21-32 (2000-2011) 5.3 Bartolo Colon 30 & 36 (2003 & 2009) 1.9 Andruw Jones 33 (2010) 0.2 Manny Ramirez 38 (2010) -0.2 Omar Vizquel 43-44 (2010-2011) -0.3 James Shields 34-36 (2016-2018) -0.4 Jimmy Rollins 37 (2016) Inducted Players acquired by Jerry Reinsdorf (initial White Sox signing 1981-2018): bWAR post Jerry Reinsdorf acquisitions 68.3 Frank Thomas 22-37 (1990-2005) 28.9 Carlton Fisk 33-45 (1981-1993) 16.6 Tim Raines 31-35 (1991-1995) 12.1 Jim Thome 35-38 (2006-2009) 9.7 Tom Seaver 39-41 (1984-1986) 2.5 Harold Baines 37-38 & 41-42 (1996-1997 & 2000-2001) 0.7 Steve Carlton 41 (1986) 0.4 Ken Griffey Junior 38 (2008) -0.7 Roberto Alomar 35-36 (2003-2004) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted December 6, 2023 Author Share Posted December 6, 2023 Two of three elections are now complete. Jim Leyland is the lone inductee under the Contemporary Era Ballot. Joe Castiglione is the lone inductee under the Ford Frick Ballot. Voting for the BBWAA Ballot will continue through December 31, 2023. Only nine reported ballots are in at this juncture (Beltre and Helton above the threshold, Sheffield and Mauer slightly below) but you can track updates daily via this link: http://www.bbhoftracker.com/2023/11/2024-bbhof-tracker-summary-and-leaderboard/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted January 1 Author Share Posted January 1 Ballots were due in Cooperstown yesterday. 93 voters, or 26%, have publicly declared their ballots. http://www.bbhoftracker.com/2023/11/2024-bbhof-tracker-summary-and-leaderboard/ It appears three of my six selections are likely to reach the 75% threshold. 98% Adrian Beltre (1st) 83% Joe Mauer (1st) 82% Todd Helton (6th) My remaining three selections are either eliminated or extremely unlikely to make it this year, but all should make it within their remaining eligibility window. 65% Carlos Beltran (2nd) 64% Andruw Jones (7th) 44% Alex Rodriguez (3rd) Billy Wagner (79%) is the one player I omitted which will likely be elected this year. Gary Sheffield at this stage (73%) will likely finish just short of the threshold on his final BBWAA appearance. I continue to be against shortening the ballot eligibility window from 15 years to 10. I do appreciate there is far less dicking around by voters to withhold votes for nearly anyone in their first year of eligibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmb0928 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 His is joe mauer so much higher than Beltran. Makes no sense to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Tuesday announcement. Looking like Beltre, Helton, and Mauer …maybe Wagner …maybe Sheffield, but probably not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted January 20 Author Share Posted January 20 1 hour ago, flavum said: Tuesday announcement. Looking like Beltre, Helton, and Mauer …maybe Wagner …maybe Sheffield, but probably not. Will be heartbreaking for Sheffield if he misses by a few votes. http://www.bbhoftracker.com/2023/11/2024-bbhof-tracker-summary-and-leaderboard/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 2 hours ago, flavum said: Tuesday announcement. Looking like Beltre, Helton, and Mauer …maybe Wagner …maybe Sheffield, but probably not. I think Sheffield should be in. I believe there are automatic numbers that get you in (unless steroids were involved), and one of them is 500 homers. Unless Sheffield had steroid connections, which I no longer remember. Beltre is a slam dunk first ballot guy. Helton, Mauer, and Wagner are definitely hall of famers. I’m just not sure that Mauer is a first ballot guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NO!!MARY!!! Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 On 11/23/2023 at 1:21 AM, South Side Hit Men said: Per usual, and in true Jerry Reinsdorf fashion, most of these players were all acquired at the end of their careers. Three of the seven active ballot players earned a negative bWAR with the Chicago White Sox over six collective seasons. Frank Thomas is the only inducted player acquired by Jerry Reinsdorf in his 20s. Current Ballot White Sox career bWAR / Player / Age & Years on the White Sox 48.9 Mark Buehrle 21-32 (2000-2011) 5.3 Bartolo Colon 30 & 36 (2003 & 2009) 1.9 Andruw Jones 33 (2010) 0.2 Manny Ramirez 38 (2010) -0.2 Omar Vizquel 43-44 (2010-2011) -0.3 James Shields 34-36 (2016-2018) -0.4 Jimmy Rollins 37 (2016) Inducted Players acquired by Jerry Reinsdorf (initial White Sox signing 1981-2018): bWAR post Jerry Reinsdorf acquisitions 68.3 Frank Thomas 22-37 (1990-2005) 28.9 Carlton Fisk 33-45 (1981-1993) 16.6 Tim Raines 31-35 (1991-1995) 12.1 Jim Thome 35-38 (2006-2009) 9.7 Tom Seaver 39-41 (1984-1986) 2.5 Harold Baines 37-38 & 41-42 (1996-1997 & 2000-2001) 0.7 Steve Carlton 41 (1986) 0.4 Ken Griffey Junior 38 (2008) -0.7 Roberto Alomar 35-36 (2003-2004) Harold Baines was not a Reinsdorf acquisition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 2 hours ago, Milkman delivers said: I think Sheffield should be in. I believe there are automatic numbers that get you in (unless steroids were involved), and one of them is 500 homers. Unless Sheffield had steroid connections, which I no longer remember. Beltre is a slam dunk first ballot guy. Helton, Mauer, and Wagner are definitely hall of famers. I’m just not sure that Mauer is a first ballot guy. He claims he didn't knowingly use steroids, but was once provided a cream by Bonds to recover from a knee injury. Ortiz waltzing in has kinda ruined the sanctity of the Hall regarding questionable steroid use for me. Blatant use? Sure. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zisk Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 On 11/20/2023 at 5:10 PM, JoshPR said: Tell you what Bobby Abreu had a real solid carrer too. Maybe Hall of Very good tho totally agree. heckuva player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted January 21 Author Share Posted January 21 5 hours ago, NO!!MARY!!! said: Harold Baines was not a Reinsdorf acquisition He was during the two periods I listed. I did not list WAR or years during his initial stint after he was acquired by Veeck and Hemond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Helton, Wagner, Buehrle, Beltre, Mauer, Utley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubadentist Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 On 1/20/2024 at 1:16 PM, NO!!MARY!!! said: Harold Baines was not a Reinsdorf acquisition True… that was a Veeck acquisition…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Beltre 95.1, Helton 79.7, Mauer 76.1 Wagner 5 short in year 9 Sheffield off ballot 63.9 Buehrle stays on at 8.3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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