Jerry visits Nashville mayor

[tray]

If Reinsdorf's comments were reported (leaked)  accurately, they look to be purposeful, inappropriate and untimely.

[Texsox]

1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said:

It’s very weird that you no longer contribute to this site and simply troll Sox fans about the team relocating.  But I guess if this gives you happiness, then keep on trucking bro.

Everyone is negative around here right now. Be careful what we wish for about Jerry selling. The devil we know may be better than the one we don't. 

Selling to a group that wants to relocate the team is something that hasn't been mentioned but probably a possibility. 

Is it trolling to say?

Our owner is horrible.

Our GM failed his way into the position.

Our manager won't get another chance anywhere after this.

Our players are horrible at every level.

Our luck in the draft was bad.

We make the playoffs once a decade 

We win a WS once a century. 

If I'm trolling we're in the majority. It's a shitty period in Sox history and there isn't any positive to talk about. 

 

 

[ThirdGen]

14 minutes ago, CentralChamps21 said:

How about Indiana?

Probably a workable solution. They have made runs at the Bears in the past. I would think they could do it financially and politically, don't know if the will is there for NWI.

[SoxFanForever]

3 minutes ago, Texsox said:

Everyone is negative around here right now. Be careful what we wish for about Jerry selling. The devil we know may be better than the one we don't. 

Selling to a group that wants to relocate the team is something that hasn't been mentioned but probably a possibility. 

The devil we know is an owner who has provided only 7 playoff appearances and one World Series appearance in 42 years of ownership.  An owner who has outright threatened to move previously and appears to be teasing the same tricks again now.  An owner who has never signed a superstar to a $100 million contract.  An owner who is an aggressive antagonist of the players union and wants to suppress player salaries and "win" that fight, instead of winning actual championships.  

The fanbase is so down right now that I don't believe any potential future owner could make people any more apathetic than they currently are.  My friends and I are in our 40's and have never been this bitter and disinterested in this team.  We typically plan a weekend trip out of town to visit a new ballpark where the Sox play and this was the first season we skipped that option.  

At this point, I think any change would be better than the feeling of helplessness that fans have.  If a new owner comes in and moves the team?  At least, Sox fans can move on instead of being stuck in some sort of weird limbo with an owner who openly antagonizes them and does not try to run the team like a 21st century franchise.  

[CentralChamps21]

9 minutes ago, ThirdGen said:

Probably a workable solution. They have made runs at the Bears in the past. I would think they could do it financially and politically, don't know if the will is there for NWI.

If you could get BP and the steel companies on board, and partner with Hard Rock Casino on the entertainment/dining district, it could definitely work.

[Lightly Folded]

The Chicago area will not be getting a new mlb franchise if the Sox move to Nashville. The Cubs can and would veto it with the (is it 250 miles) rule. Also, as someone who has been a longtime reader of this site whom just started posting I like to say to supposedly sox fans who want them to move to Nashville…..go to hell and move with them. My family has been Sox fans for four generations. It’s so easy to spot Cub fans posing as Sox fans. 

[Texsox]

It's easy to imagine things about people you've never met. For example I could say it's easy to spot that JR finally hired some interns to post to social media. Although I doubt that's true. 

Folks say things when they are upset that they don't mean. Fucking leave then is one of those statements that probably shouldn't be taken literally. 

[hogan873]

4 minutes ago, Lightly Folded said:

The Chicago area will not be getting a new mlb franchise if the Sox move to Nashville. The Cubs can and would veto it with the (is it 250 miles) rule. Also, as someone who has been a longtime reader of this site whom just started posting I like to say to supposedly sox fans who want them to move to Nashville…..go to hell and move with them. My family has been Sox fans for four generations. It’s so easy to spot Cub fans posing as Sox fans. 

I think most of the folks on here saying they don't care if the Sox move aren't secret Cubs fans.  We're all sick and tired of this team, more specifically the owner, jerking us around year in and year out.  Most of the vitriol is just venting.  There are very few of us who would be okay with the Sox moving.  We're going to be miserable without a team to cheer for.  We'd rather be miserable with a team to piss us off.

[Lightly Folded]

14 minutes ago, SoxFanForever said:

The devil we know is an owner who has provided only 7 playoff appearances and one World Series appearance in 42 years of ownership.  An owner who has outright threatened to move previously and appears to be teasing the same tricks again now.  An owner who has never signed a superstar to a $100 million contract.  An owner who is an aggressive antagonist of the players union and wants to suppress player salaries and "win" that fight, instead of winning actual championships.  

The fanbase is so down right now that I don't believe any potential future owner could make people any more apathetic than they currently are.  My friends and I are in our 40's and have never been this bitter and disinterested in this team.  We typically plan a weekend trip out of town to visit a new ballpark where the Sox play and this was the first season we skipped that option.  

At this point, I think any change would be better than the feeling of helplessness that fans have.  If a new owner comes in and moves the team?  At least, Sox fans can move on instead of being stuck in some sort of weird limbo with an owner who openly antagonizes them and does not try to run the team like a 21st century franchise.  

With all the horror stories regarding moving to Nashville, the real fan base has been torn to shreds and will be in tatters going forward until Reinsdorf officially announces a deal/plan to keep them here. I not saying that day will come but this fan base is now officially deflated and can only be resurrected with an assured Chicago/Chicago area home. For the next few years Sox park will be the home of the living dead. We await a savior……that may not come. 

[Quin]

5 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

https://www.mckinsey.com/featured-insights/diversity-and-inclusion/a-happy-warrior-mellody-hobson-on-mentorship-diversity-and-feedback
 

Put together Hobson, the Obamas (both women with Princeton backgrounds), George Lucas…you’re going to blow Jerry Reinsdorf out of the freakin’ water.

Unfortunately it might have to happen in Nashville and not Chicago…

"A group of Chicagoans buy the team from Jerry to move it Nashville."

[caulfield12]

23 minutes ago, Quin said:

"A group of Chicagoans buy the team from Jerry to move it Nashville."

Jerry would take less of a hit than moving the team in the middle of the night...there's that.

[Lightly Folded]

5 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Jerry would take less of a hit than moving the team in the middle of the night...there's that.

Right. He’ll say “don’t take this out on me or my Bulls. I didn’t move the team.”What the Hell…..this may very well be the dawning of a hopeless situation for us Sox fans. 

[Lip Man 1]

https://soxmachine.com/2023/12/jerry-reinsdorf-meets-with-nashville-mayor-who-doesnt-seem-likely-to-help-him/

[Tony]

1 hour ago, Texsox said:

It's easy to imagine things about people you've never met. For example I could say it's easy to spot that JR finally hired some interns to post to social media. Although I doubt that's true. 

Folks say things when they are upset that they don't mean. Fucking leave then is one of those statements that probably shouldn't be taken literally. 

What does this even mean?

[Lightly Folded]

17 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

https://soxmachine.com/2023/12/jerry-reinsdorf-meets-with-nashville-mayor-who-doesnt-seem-likely-to-help-him/

I can see him (mayor) not favoring  his city financially helping Nashville’s already established NFL team which is already bringing in revenue for business and tax monies. Improving the current Nashville NFL stadium or building a new nfl stadium may slightly increase overall local revenues as it is related to the Titans but bringing a whole new entity into Nashville (white sox) complete with a new baseball facility can be justified by the mayor as a greatly significant financial boon that did not exist before, saying the monies eventually earned (throughout) would justify the initial costs, tax incentives, etc.etc.

[MiddleCoastBias]

1 hour ago, Quin said:

"A group of Chicagoans buy the team from Jerry to move it Nashville."

 

[Lip Man 1]

16 minutes ago, Lightly Folded said:

I can see him (mayor) not favoring  his city financially helping Nashville’s already established NFL team which is already bringing in revenue for business and tax monies. Improving the current Nashville NFL stadium or building a new nfl stadium may slightly increase overall local revenues as it is related to the Titans but bringing a whole new entity into Nashville (white sox) complete with a new baseball facility can be justified by the mayor as a greatly significant financial boon that did not exist before, saying the monies eventually earned (throughout) would justify the initial costs, tax incentives, etc.etc.

It has been shown in numerous studies and detailed accounts from economists, that this doesn't happen in reality. People are getting wise to this.  

[Quin]

1 minute ago, Lip Man 1 said:

It has been shown in numerous studies and detailed accounts from economists, that this doesn't happen in reality. People are getting wise to this.  

Except Vegas, where the team needs the people that are already visiting the area and not the other way around ... which makes it more baffling.

[Texsox]

1 hour ago, Tony said:

What does this even mean?

The post above mine said it's easy to spot Cub fans pretending to be Sox fans. Also to keep supporting the team. The post also went on to claim that anyone who posts go ahead and move is a Cub fan. I think those folks who post then leave a**hole type posts are really frustrated Sox fans who say it as hyperbole and don't really mean it. 

But since we really don't know most posters it's easy to make generalizations. 

Most companies hire social media folks to write things like "you should keep supporting the team and stop being so negative. And "you're probably a Cub fan." 

TL:DR not everyone who is negative is a Cub fan. Not everyone who posts something positive is a paid shill. We're all Sox fans here. 

[Lightly Folded]

44 minutes ago, Texsox said:

The post above mine said it's easy to spot Cub fans pretending to be Sox fans. Also to keep supporting the team. The post also went on to claim that anyone who posts go ahead and move is a Cub fan. I think those folks who post then leave a**hole type posts are really frustrated Sox fans who say it as hyperbole and don't really mean it. 

But since we really don't know most posters it's easy to make generalizations. 

Most companies hire social media folks to write things like "you should keep supporting the team and stop being so negative. And "you're probably a Cub fan." 

TL:DR not everyone who is negative is a Cub fan. Not everyone who posts something positive is a paid shill. We're all Sox fans here. 

I agree that that anyone that’s negative isn’t necessarily a cub fan but anyone who claims to be a Sox fan and supports the move to Nashville is either a cub fan or a Nashville fan or a outsider. No real sox fan wants the team to move away from Chicago or the Chicago area. I can see a former Sox fan not giving a s%*# what happens but then those people wouldn’t be on this site anyway…..or shouldn’t feel a need to be here unless they’re psycho.

[bmags]

Why is every other fan base so lucky

 

[Texsox]

1 hour ago, Lightly Folded said:

I agree that that anyone that’s negative isn’t necessarily a cub fan but anyone who claims to be a Sox fan and supports the move to Nashville is either a cub fan or a Nashville fan or a outsider. No real sox fan wants the team to move away from Chicago or the Chicago area. I can see a former Sox fan not giving a s%*# what happens but then those people wouldn’t be on this site anyway…..or shouldn’t feel a need to be here unless they’re psycho.

I think there are people here who have posted variations on the "fine, leave b****", including myself, who really don't want that. It's a way to defuse the frustration. 

I would also believe that there are true Sox fans that given the choice of an expansion team with new owners in Chicago or JR and family for another couple decades would have a hard decision to make. 

[Lip Man 1]

1 hour ago, bmags said:

Why is every other fan base so lucky

 

Eventually our time will come. It has to because of the laws of the universe and nature related to humanity. 

[Lightly Folded]

8 minutes ago, Texsox said:

I think there are people here who have posted variations on the "fine, leave b****", including myself, who really don't want that. It's a way to defuse the frustration. 

I would also believe that there are true Sox fans that given the choice of an expansion team with new owners in Chicago or JR and family for another couple decades would have a hard decision to make. 

I believe the Cubs can (and would) veto an expansion team coming to Chicago or any current team coming to Chicago due to the 250 mile infringement rule.

[Texsox]

And . . .

Are we really opposed to Jerry getting us a new stadium in the greater Chicago area? I really don't mind if he leverages Nashville and we wind up playing in a new stadium with a long term, can't leave Chicagoland,  lease. 

But admittedly I'm not paying as much Illinois taxes as I used to.