Tnetennba Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tnetennba Posted December 21, 2023 Author Share Posted December 21, 2023 Pitcher Who Warms Up Must Face At Least One Hitter: A pitcher who is sent out to warm up for an inning must face at least one batter (in addition to any requirements under the Three-Batter Minimum rule). There were 24 instances this season where the pitcher that warmed up between innings was replaced before throwing a pitch (adding approximately three minutes of dead time per event). There were two such instances during the 2023 World Series. This seems excessive to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 49 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: Pitcher Who Warms Up Must Face At Least One Hitter: A pitcher who is sent out to warm up for an inning must face at least one batter (in addition to any requirements under the Three-Batter Minimum rule). There were 24 instances this season where the pitcher that warmed up between innings was replaced before throwing a pitch (adding approximately three minutes of dead time per event). There were two such instances during the 2023 World Series. This seems excessive to me. Why, I love it. it's dumb a team will throw a guy out there to warm up, to just pull him after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autumn Dreamin Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Seems unnecessary to make a rule change for something that happened 24 times across 2430 games to potentially save 3 minutes per instance. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, Autumn Dreamin said: Seems unnecessary to make a rule change for something that happened 24 times across 2430 games to potentially save 3 minutes per instance. Put a stop to it now before teams start abusing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Once again I'm disappointed. Stupid rules committee. When are they gonna finally add pitchers hand out in extra innings....this is bullshit!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Tnetennba said: Pitcher Who Warms Up Must Face At Least One Hitter: A pitcher who is sent out to warm up for an inning must face at least one batter (in addition to any requirements under the Three-Batter Minimum rule). There were 24 instances this season where the pitcher that warmed up between innings was replaced before throwing a pitch (adding approximately three minutes of dead time per event). There were two such instances during the 2023 World Series. This seems excessive to me. When I first read the rule, I thought it was referring to pitchers warming up in the bullpen, which would be crazy. This makes more sense, but a rule to address something that only happened a few times (compared to the number of games played) seems strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 I love the tighter pitch clock but I love a good mound visit. Grab a beer, go to the bathroom, cook a nice steak, watch a couple commercials, maybe sing a jingle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autumn Dreamin Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 1 hour ago, hogan873 said: When I first read the rule, I thought it was referring to pitchers warming up in the bullpen, which would be crazy. This makes more sense, but a rule to address something that only happened a few times (compared to the number of games played) seems strange. Can you imagine? 😂 You start warming both a RHP and LHP to potentially relieve your starter depending on how the inning goes, and now they both have to come in. The first guy in HAS to face three batters because he's NOT allowed to get the third out. Do inning ending outs just get waved off because the inning can't end until the second RP comes in? Intentional walks to meet the minimum, and then you just hope the second guy in can wiggle out of it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 1 hour ago, hogan873 said: When I first read the rule, I thought it was referring to pitchers warming up in the bullpen, which would be crazy. This makes more sense, but a rule to address something that only happened a few times (compared to the number of games played) seems strange. While it's minor, it's an unnecessary waste of time and frankly a waste of effort on a pitcher's arm. Managers do it to either buy other guys time to warm up or to do gamesmanship things - oh you gotta have your guy announced first so I will send my guy out to fool you. It becomes a time waster coming right out of a commercial break, everything comes back, is ready to go, then oh here's another 3 minute delay. Especially if it happened at all during the playoffs, let's just get rid of it, it's unnecessary and serves no benefit to having a better game and makes it worse for TV. Put the pitcher out there to warm up who is actually going to pitch, come back from the break, and play baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 13 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: While it's minor, it's an unnecessary waste of time and frankly a waste of effort on a pitcher's arm. Managers do it to either buy other guys time to warm up or to do gamesmanship things - oh you gotta have your guy announced first so I will send my guy out to fool you. It becomes a time waster coming right out of a commercial break, everything comes back, is ready to go, then oh here's another 3 minute delay. Especially if it happened at all during the playoffs, let's just get rid of it, it's unnecessary and serves no benefit to having a better game and makes it worse for TV. Put the pitcher out there to warm up who is actually going to pitch, come back from the break, and play baseball. I agree. It serves no purpose so stop the managers. It doesn't happen often but who knows if someone starts it as a "competitive advantage" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted December 22, 2023 Author Share Posted December 22, 2023 3 hours ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Why, I love it. it's dumb a team will throw a guy out there to warm up, to just pull him after. 2 hours ago, hogan873 said: When I first read the rule, I thought it was referring to pitchers warming up in the bullpen, which would be crazy. This makes more sense, but a rule to address something that only happened a few times (compared to the number of games played) seems strange. This is how I interpreted it too, hence my comment. A pitcher warming up on the mound for an inning makes way more sense. I can see the logic behind the change, even if it happened far too infrequently to require a rule change IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Balta1701 said: While it's minor, it's an unnecessary waste of time and frankly a waste of effort on a pitcher's arm. Managers do it to either buy other guys time to warm up or to do gamesmanship things - oh you gotta have your guy announced first so I will send my guy out to fool you. It becomes a time waster coming right out of a commercial break, everything comes back, is ready to go, then oh here's another 3 minute delay. Especially if it happened at all during the playoffs, let's just get rid of it, it's unnecessary and serves no benefit to having a better game and makes it worse for TV. Put the pitcher out there to warm up who is actually going to pitch, come back from the break, and play baseball. I think the players support this rule change, but there was no need to make the other changes the players objected to. There should only be rule changes made within each CBA agreement, or when there is consensus agreement between players and owners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KipWellsFan Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 18 hours ago, wegner said: Once again I'm disappointed. Stupid rules committee. When are they gonna finally add pitchers hand out in extra innings....this is bullshit!!! Sorry, what? These rules seem pretty reasonable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 2 hours ago, KipWellsFan said: Sorry, what? These rules seem pretty reasonable. I've had enough of you Manfred Apologists MERRY CHRISTMAS 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/ct-mlb-pitch-clock-rule-changes-20231222-4ok5wxyz2randbzh72etbbfgv4-story.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 7 hours ago, KipWellsFan said: Sorry, what? These rules seem pretty reasonable. That was comedy ,unless the pitchers hand out comment ( the baseball you played as a kid when you didnt have enough kids to throw to 1st) didnt make it obvious to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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