4 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

AC Slater couldn't even save this mess.

We're going in the same direction as Elizabeth Berkeley's career without the spectacle of Showgirls.

I can’t see how we get offered anything that would warrant pulling the trigger now.  The best move is really just to roll the dice and hope he gets off to a decent start.  

8 minutes ago, bighurt574 said:

I can’t see how we get offered anything that would warrant pulling the trigger now.  The best move is really just to roll the dice and hope he gets off to a decent start.  

He will be hurt by game 25. 

 

Quote from Ken Rosenthal

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The Philadelphia Phillies and Boston Red Sox are among the other teams interested in Crochet, but the Mets and Yankees were the most aggressive suitors as of Monday, according to two sources briefed on the White Sox’s discussions. No deal with any club was considered close.

The Mets, after beating out the Yankees for Soto, also would appear to have the edge for Crochet, based on the young talent they could offer. The White Sox ideally want major-league-ready hitters. And though shortstop Colson Montgomery is their top position prospect, people familiar with the Sox’s farm system say the team still needs better players at up-the-middle positions such as shortstop, second base and center field.

Some of the Mets’ top prospects, such as Jett Williams and Luisangel Acuña, profile as up-the-middle players. The Mets also have Brett Baty, a former top prospect, who is blocked at third base by Mark Vientos. After getting demoted to Triple A last season, Baty increased his versatility by playing second base.

 

5 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Quote from Ken Rosenthal

 

I don't really love the Yankees or Mets as a fit.

Edit: sorry, for Crochet.

Edited December 10, 20241 yr by Bob Sacamano

I like that Chuck's "report" was just basically reading the article we also read.

Rank these potential Crochet returns from best to worst:

• BOS:  SS Marcelo Mayer, OF Braden Montgomery, & lottery ticket
• PHI:  SS Aiden Miller, OF Justin Crawford, & RHP Wen-Hui Pan
• NYM:  SS Jett Williams, OF Ryan Clifford, SS Luisangel Acuna, & 3B Brett Baty
• CHC:  OF Owen Caissie, 2B James Triantos, & SS Christian Hernandez

4 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Rank these potential Crochet returns from best to worst:

• BOS:  SS Marcelo Mayer, OF Braden Montgomery, & lottery ticket
• PHI:  SS Aiden Miller, OF Justin Crawford, & RHP Wen-Hui Pan
• NYM:  SS Jett Williams, OF Ryan Clifford, SS Luisangel Acuna, & 3B Brett Baty
• CHC:  OF Owen Caissie, 2B James Triantos, & SS Christian Hernandez

Think it is already in the right order. Maybe switch Mets and Cubs.

6 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Rank these potential Crochet returns from best to worst:

• BOS:  SS Marcelo Mayer, OF Braden Montgomery, & lottery ticket
• PHI:  SS Aiden Miller, OF Justin Crawford, & RHP Wen-Hui Pan
• NYM:  SS Jett Williams, OF Ryan Clifford, SS Luisangel Acuna, & 3B Brett Baty
• CHC:  OF Owen Caissie, 2B James Triantos, & SS Christian Hernandez

1) Bos, 2) Cubs, 3) Mets, 4) Phi

I wanted the Sox to draft B. Monty, but there's murmurs about Mayer staying healthy. Caissie is a savage, no? I like the quantity from the Mets over Crawford's lack of power. 

Mark Feinsand update:

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While Crochet is among the most popular trade targets in the league, the White Sox have received significant interest in Luis Robert Jr., who has one year and $15 million remaining on his contract, plus $20 million club options for both the 2026 and 2027 seasons.

Robert had his breakout season in 2023, hitting 38 home runs with 80 RBIs, 20 stolen bases and an .857 OPS in 145 games. He took a step backward in 2024, hitting 14 home runs with 35 RBIs, 23 steals and a .657 OPS in 100 games, but despite Robert’s struggles last season, a source said Chicago only plans to move the outfielder if they believe they’re getting full market value for him.

 

32 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Mark Feinsand update:

 

I'm glad it's not just Getz saying there is legit interest. 

If they move Crochet to BOS for Mayer and Montgomery, hopefully they could move Robert to PHI for Crawford. 

13 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said:

I'm glad it's not just Getz saying there is legit interest. 

Isn't that though?

1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Rank these potential Crochet returns from best to worst:

• BOS:  SS Marcelo Mayer, OF Braden Montgomery, & lottery ticket
• PHI:  SS Aiden Miller, OF Justin Crawford, & RHP Wen-Hui Pan
• NYM:  SS Jett Williams, OF Ryan Clifford, SS Luisangel Acuna, & 3B Brett Baty
• CHC:  OF Owen Caissie, 2B James Triantos, & SS Christian Hernandez

Replace the names with ???? and that's what they'll get or what they'll become.

 

1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Rank these potential Crochet returns from best to worst:

• BOS:  SS Marcelo Mayer, OF Braden Montgomery, & lottery ticket
• PHI:  SS Aiden Miller, OF Justin Crawford, & RHP Wen-Hui Pan
• NYM:  SS Jett Williams, OF Ryan Clifford, SS Luisangel Acuna, & 3B Brett Baty
• CHC:  OF Owen Caissie, 2B James Triantos, & SS Christian Hernandez

Order is good, just swap Cubs and Mets.

Starting this one since haven't seen another created - can use this one for anything we hear 

Not a rumor but Luis Robert for Cam Collier - let's make it happen Reds! 

There is a thread. Just hasn't been posted in since yesterday.

https://www.soxtalk.com/forums/topic/120463-white-sox-asking-for-top-prospects-for-robert/

 

Edited December 11, 20241 yr by Bob Sacamano

Read somewhere that the Reds can’t afford Robert’s salary

5 minutes ago, fathom said:

Read somewhere that the Reds can’t afford Robert’s salary

Total Payroll Allocation: $59M lol

Total Payroll w/ Estimate Arb numbers: $90M lol

Edited December 11, 20241 yr by Bob Sacamano

2 hours ago, Rey21 said:

Starting this one since haven't seen another created - can use this one for anything we hear 

Not a rumor but Luis Robert for Cam Collier - let's make it happen Reds! 

I’d be good with any of the Reds’ top 5 prospects for Robert

https://www.si.com/mlb/reds/news/mlb-insider-says-reds-continue-to-show-interest-in-veteran-outfielder-01jevsd6pnxn

23 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

I’d be good with any of the Reds’ top 5 prospects for Robert

https://www.si.com/mlb/reds/news/mlb-insider-says-reds-continue-to-show-interest-in-veteran-outfielder-01jevsd6pnxn

Any one of their #3 through #5 would be fine.

F*** it.  Nut up, Jerry, and send some money with Robert to get the best return.  It’s not like the Sox are going to spend anything of consequence this offseason.

Edited December 11, 20241 yr by WhiteSox2023

3 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

F*** it.  Get the best return from the Reds.  Nut up, Jerry, and send some money with Robert.  It’s not like they are going to spend anything of consequence this offseason.

This is how I feel now that Crochet is gone. Tear it completely down. Get me more interesting OF prospects through various levels and build some possible depth, something they have literally never done before.

Jesse Rogers just said on ESPN 1000 that the Reds made an offer for Robert that would be considered the "B" variety, but the Sox want an "A" prospect in return.

53 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said:

Jesse Rogers just said on ESPN 1000 that the Reds made an offer for Robert that would be considered the "B" variety, but the Sox want an "A" prospect in return.

IMO Getz wants Arroyo from CIN. He is hellbent on adding a legit up the middle talent (SS or CF) because C. Montgomery probably won't stick and Robert will need to be replaced. 

24 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said:

IMO Getz wants Arroyo from CIN. He is hellbent on adding a legit up the middle talent (SS or CF) because C. Montgomery probably won't stick and Robert will need to be replaced. 

I wouldn’t be surprised if that is Getz’s target, as well as expecting Montgomery to eventually be at 3B.  Sadly, I doubt Jacob Gonzalez is our SS of the future.

Edited December 12, 20241 yr by WhiteSox2023