WhiteSox2023 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 11 hours ago, caulfield12 said: https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2025/02/cubs-chris-flexen-agree-to-minor-league-deal.html Cubs sign Chris Flexen...terms pending Padres signed Yuli Gurriel...looks like no guaranteed money, but they still need a 1B/DH bat...Gain Sheets in the mix as well. Waiting for JD Martinez to come down in price? Flexen got $1.75 million from Getz last offseason and signs a non-guaranteed minor league deal this offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 5 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Flexen got $1.75 million from Getz last offseason and signs a non-guaranteed minor league deal this offseason. Cubs can't afford (figuratively) to offer him a spot in a rotation that's supposed to be playoff caliber. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 7 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Flexen got $1.75 million from Getz last offseason and signs a non-guaranteed minor league deal this offseason. Makes sense that the bad team has to make a better offer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: How does that work for Bush? Does he get service time while he recovers from his TJS? Also, doesn’t it make a difference if he was on the 26 man (or active) roster vs. the 40 man? I think it makes a difference when it occurs. It's not a scenario where Bush wasn't optioned to the minors then had the injury and surgery. He was placed on the Major League IL so he should be getting service time. Edited February 18 by Bob Sacamano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 1 hour ago, PaleAleSox said: I know you just want to paint this as worse as possible for the trade of...Gregory Santos, but a young guy a few years off at best getting TJ is not that big of a deal. It's just how the league is now with young pitchers. It was a weak draft. If they coaxed a live arm into taking 2nd round money (a la Payton Pallette and Grant Taylor) in order to get 1st round value in the 2nd round, that's a good strategy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Snopek said: Makes sense that the bad team has to make a better offer. Flexen wasn’t great last season but he was better than he was in 2023. Strange that he would have to take less money this offseason than last offseason. Or perhaps the Cubs gave him what he is worth and Getz just overpaid the guy last offseason. Edited February 18 by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 1 hour ago, PaleAleSox said: I know you just want to paint this as worse as possible for the trade of...Gregory Santos, but a young guy a few years off at best getting TJ is not that big of a deal. It's just how the league is now with young pitchers. I’m not painting it in any way. I just posted the facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 5 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Flexen wasn’t great last season but he was better than he was the previous season. Strange that he would have to take less money than last offseason. Or perhaps the Cubs gave him what he is worth and Getz just overpaid the guy last offseason. I agree it’s a little strange that he’s taking less money this offseason. Who knows, maybe he just really wanted to sign with a competitive team and they’re less desperate for his services than the bad teams. Here’s the way I look at it. Flexen ended up being surprisingly durable and important to the Sox last year. Sure he wasn’t necessarily good, but he was a stable guy in the rotation which gave them more flexibility with the other rotation spots. If it was an overpay, fine. Who cares? Ultimately they wanted him, they got him, and he served a purpose. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 The market for Flexen is really limited to teams with no aspirations. He does his job, but he’s just not very good; so a team that thinks it can contend really can’t use him. That limits him to the bottom of the league and he’s already done a stent with the White Sox and Rockies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tnetennba Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 1 hour ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Flexen wasn’t great last season but he was better than he was in 2023. Strange that he would have to take less money this offseason than last offseason. Or perhaps the Cubs gave him what he is worth and Getz just overpaid the guy last offseason. Maybe a very in over his head GM didn't understand that all the guys he gave guaranteed deals to could have been had on minor league non-roster invites? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 16 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: Maybe a very in over his head GM didn't understand that all the guys he gave guaranteed deals to could have been had on minor league non-roster invites? Sure, maybe. Or maybe he just wouldn’t accept a NRI with the Sox. Of all the Getz related things to have an issue with, the Flexen signing is an odd one. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 9 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: So this was the draft pick they got back in the Gregory Santos trade? Yikes… Zach DeLoach — DFA and no other team wanted him so the Sox retained him. Prelander Berroa — 6.41 ERA and 1.83 WHIP in Charlotte last season. Looked good with Sox but had a near 1.50 WHIP because he walks too many batters. 69th pick in the 2024 draft — Blake Larson — needs TJ surgery Still a perfectly fine trade 2 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: How does that work for Bush? Does he get service time while he recovers from his TJS? Also, doesn’t it make a difference if he was on the 26 man (or active) roster vs. the 40 man? Yeah he’ll receive a year of service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 48 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: It’s kind of amazing when you look at Prince/Cecil Fielder and Vlad Sr/Jr numbers up through their 20s are just so damn close almost identical. Then Prince fell off the planet and retired. I hope that doesn’t happen with Jr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 14 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: It’s kind of amazing when you look at Prince/Cecil Fielder and Vlad Sr/Jr numbers up through their 20s are just so damn close almost identical. Then Prince fell off the planet and retired. I hope that doesn’t happen with Jr Not going to lie, this does stay in the back of my mind when it comes to giving Jr multi-hundreds of millions of dollars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PaleAleSox Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 5 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: I love that Cubs reporters always report how the person wants to play for the Cubs. So insecure about it all. Also, sure he is a highly accomplished hitter, a lot of guys are accomplished hitters who can no longer do that at 40. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 52 minutes ago, Snopek said: Sure, maybe. Or maybe he just wouldn’t accept a NRI with the Sox. Of all the Getz related things to have an issue with, the Flexen signing is an odd one. Which is entirely possible. The issue isn't signing Flexen per se, it's the history of this org burning gobs of money on the fringes of the roster expecting it to make a difference. Which is something Hahn did a lot, as did Getz in his first year. Perhaps Getz is learning that he can get equal value from an NRI and doesn't have to lock up bad players with good money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 (edited) https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2025/02/astros-brendan-rodgers-agree-to-one-year-deal.html This is the guy I wanted over Rojas to man SS before Colson... "The right-handed hitter has turned in a .266/.316/.409 slash line in more than 1800 career plate appearances. He put up virtually identical numbers last year, posting a .267/.314/.407 mark across 539 trips to the dish. Rodgers hit 13 home runs with middling strikeout and walk rates. He hit the ball on the ground at a career-high 56.1% rate. Among hitters with 500+ plate appearances, no one hit the ball on the ground more often." Fuller could have fixed him...haha. Edited February 19 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 It's a mess, and it's why I didn't think Bregman was a good fit for the Red Sox. Here's a potential 2025 plan: Alex Bregman at 3B Trevor Story at SS Kristian Campbell at 2B Triston Casas at 1B Rafael Devers at DH Masataka Yoshida traded or in a part-time role I think there's a fair chance Bregman misses 20 or so games due to injury. Third base would well-covered in that case with Devers, perhaps Campbell in a pinch, and maybe Marcelo Mayer when he's ready. Story is 32 and hasn't topped 94 games in a season since 2021, so the Red Sox may need to cover 40+ games at shortstop. He could be backed up by Mayer, Campbell, or even Bregman. www.mlbtraderumors.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Counting on Trevor Story doesn’t look too smart. Dude has been bad and unavailable in a Red Sox uniform Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 (edited) Canario looks like a better package than anything the Sox have in AAAA outfielders. I wonder if Chris Getz is on the phone. Alexander Canario Minor & Winter Leagues Statistics | Baseball-Reference.com Needing room on the roster for Justin Turner, the Cubs have DFA’d OF Alexander Canario, sources tell ESPN. Canario is a good trade candidate. He never got a real shot in Chicago, playing in just 21 big league games. — Jesse Rogers (@JesseRogersESPN) February 20, 2025 Edited February 20 by WestEddy 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 8 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Canario looks like a better package than anything the Sox have in AAAA outfielders. I wonder if Chris Getz is on the phone. Alexander Canario Minor & Winter Leagues Statistics | Baseball-Reference.com Absolutely should be all over this. Would much rather give him a look than waste at-bats on Slater and Taylor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 (edited) 8 minutes ago, ChiSoxFanMike said: Absolutely should be all over this. Would much rather give him a look than waste at-bats on Slater and Taylor. Canario's a LF. I don't think he's knocking Taylor off the roster. I think he'd take Fletcher's or Colas' place in the "next man up" queue. Edited February 20 by WestEddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 11 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Canario's a LF. I don't think he's knocking Taylor off the roster. I think he'd take Fletcher's or Colas' place in the "next man up" queue. Looks like he’s played all 3 outfield spots in the past. I’d definitely take him, especially if they plan on trading Robert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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