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Off-Season Pass the Time Catch-All

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13 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Would Getz dare cut Fletcher or Colas to make room for Canario on the 40-man?  Colas definitely doesn’t appear to be a favorite by any means and both guys are close to aging out of chances.  Canario at least still has youth on his side, and more power potential than both Colas and Fletcher.

You would need to also carry him on the 26-man though, where you already have Robert, Benintendi, Taylor, Tauchman, and Slater already. If they think it's likely that they are going to move Robert before OD, then there is room.

Could always try to add him and figure it out during Spring Training (injuries happen).

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6 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

Agreed. I'm not even saying that I dislike the move. Just think he could have been had later in the offseason/minor league deal.

I totally get that view, but I think it’s likely one of those things where Fuller told Getz “I can return this dude to form, go get him” and at the price of $1.75M it was worth targeting him early.  I know we like to think all low level free agents are interchangeable, but ultimately you got move fast if you feel someone is undervalued.

9 minutes ago, T R U said:

To play devils advocate, Austin Slater has never been traded for anything of value in his career (which includes your stretch you listed). He was terrible last year, even worse against LHP, and is now going to be platooning on a god awful team. This is a guy who should be discarded instantly if there is a younger, promising, and controllable player available. 

To your point though, it was not a crazy stupid move, but this guy is more likely to get DFA'd before traded for value.

Agreed.  Also, he’s the lesser side of the platoon facing lefties.

Kind of funny that a bad 100 loss team should be playing younger guys rather than vets and this team is looking at a RF platoon of Tauchman/Slater when it could have have easily been Colas/Canario.

I still don’t understand the strategy here…

41 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

How about for Sosa.

Fine but will they roster 6 outfielders? 

27 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Would Getz dare cut Fletcher or Colas to make room for Canario on the 40-man?  Colas definitely doesn’t appear to be a favorite by any means and both guys are close to aging out of chances.  Canario at least still has youth on his side, and more power potential than both Colas and Fletcher.

I'm sure he wouldn't be opposed but that doesn't matter. He's out of options. Canario literally needs to be on the 26-man roster or he'll be DFA again. 

5 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

Fine but will they roster 6 outfielders? 

I'm sure he wouldn't be opposed but that doesn't matter. He's out of options. Canario literally needs to be on the 26-man roster or he'll be DFA again. 

Just so they could buy some more time.  Perhaps an OF injury comes up in ST to make room for Canario on the 26-man roster?

12 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Kind of funny that a bad 100 loss team should be playing younger guys rather than vets and this team is looking at a RF platoon of Tauchman/Slater when it could have have easily been Colas/Canario.

I still don’t understand the strategy here…

Because if this team was nothing but Colas/Canario/Sosa types they would lose 130 games. We don't have the players to stick young upside guys in every position.

Guys like Slater and Tauchman aren't good, but at least they have played in the majors and been somewhat successful before. They either hold the place until traded or released.

16 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

Fine but will they roster 6 outfielders? 

I'm working off premise that Robert will be traded before OD.  

15 minutes ago, T R U said:

Because if this team was nothing but Colas/Canario/Sosa types they would lose 130 games. We don't have the players to stick young upside guys in every position.

Guys like Slater and Tauchman aren't good, but at least they have played in the majors and been somewhat successful before. They either hold the place until traded or released.

What is the difference between Tauchman/Slater and Colas/Canario?  Two wins maybe?  I’d rather see what Colas/Canario could actually do (even if they both bust) than hope Tauchman/Slater return a couple 24 year old A ball relievers at the deadline.  This team is losing around 100 games either way.

Edited by WhiteSox2023

10 minutes ago, T R U said:

Because if this team was nothing but Colas/Canario/Sosa types they would lose 130 games. We don't have the players to stick young upside guys in every position.

Guys like Slater and Tauchman aren't good, but at least they have played in the majors and been somewhat successful before. They either hold the place until traded or released.

Pretty sure Slater and Tauchman would murder someone to have the careers that Benintendi or Robert or even Pham have had, and that got us nothing last year.

10 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

I'm working off premise that Robert will be traded before OD.  

It makes a lot more sense in that case but the offers need to improve greatly for that to happen I'd think. 

10 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

What is the difference between Tauchman/Slater and Colas/Canario?  Two wins maybe?  I’d rather see what Colas/Canario could actually do (even if they both bust) than hope Tauchman/Slater return a couple 24 year old A ball relievers at the deadline.  This team is losing around 100 games either way.

Yeah im with you, it makes no difference to me. To the people running the organization however, I am sure they care much more about it since their careers are on the line. 

I would rather see the young guys as well, but you still need to fill a roster with what you believe is competent players even if you are waiting for prospects to develop so I get that.

1 hour ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

He should be willing to eat Slater’s $1.75 million for a 24 year old that could potentially help in the future.  I still never understood signing Tauchman and Slater to begin with…

Really it should be one of the 60 middle relievers they brought in this off season they grind out, but you know.

5 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Really it should be one of the 60 middle relievers they brought in this off season they grind out, but you know.

How though? They can't carry 6 outfielders on the roster with 13 pitchers and 13 position player requirement. 

4 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

How though? They can't carry 6 outfielders on the roster with 13 pitchers and 13 position player requirement. 

I also think that Robert is getting dumped for the warmest pile of puke this spring, but the problem was created over the winter, not today.  It's the absurd 40 man management that is the issue here.

24 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

I also think that Robert is getting dumped for the warmest pile of puke this spring, but the problem was created over the winter, not today.  It's the absurd 40 man management that is the issue here.

This tab should never be closed at 35th and Shields.

1 hour ago, T R U said:

To play devils advocate, Austin Slater has never been traded for anything of value in his career (which includes your stretch you listed). He was terrible last year, even worse against LHP, and is now going to be platooning on a god awful team. This is a guy who should be discarded instantly if there is a younger, promising, and controllable player available. 

To your point though, it was not a crazy stupid move, but this guy is more likely to get DFA'd before traded for value.

Slater played for the Giants that entire time and was incredibly valuable as a platoon player.  They certainly could have traded him for value if they wanted to prior to last season.  Even last year he was able to be moved twice.

That being said, he shouldn’t be a major hurdle to move on from if a better alternative presents itself.  I don’t think they will cut bait the first week of camp, but I do think they will have a short leash with him.

2 hours ago, Bob Sacamano said:

Agreed. I'm not even saying that I dislike the move. Just think he could have been had later in the offseason/minor league deal.

If any of the other 29 teams felt they could snag Slater later in the offseason, they’d be wrong. Point being, I think he might have gotten scooped up by another team if they tried to wait. 

17 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said:

If any of the other 29 teams felt they could snag Slater later in the offseason, they’d be wrong. Point being, I think he might have gotten scooped up by another team if they tried to wait. 

What a travesty that would have been for our 100 loss team.

2 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

I also think that Robert is getting dumped for the warmest pile of puke this spring, but the problem was created over the winter, not today.  It's the absurd 40 man management that is the issue here.

They’ll absolutely claim him on waivers. Someone else will probably trade for him before that though. That’s the issue. Should the White Sox be the winning bid? I’m not sure about that 

12 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

They’ll absolutely claim him on waivers. Someone else will probably trade for him before that though. That’s the issue. Should the White Sox be the winning bid? I’m not sure about that 

They have wasted assets on worse this year.

13 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

They’ll absolutely claim him on waivers. Someone else will probably trade for him before that though. That’s the issue. Should the White Sox be the winning bid? I’m not sure about that 

What would you be willing to trade for him if you ignore the current OF roster concern?

45 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

What would you be willing to trade for him if you ignore the current OF roster concern?

The same level of guys that were traded for Gilbert and Booser.

Canario hit well in the Dominican Winter League.

95 PA

79 AB

.304 / .411 / .544 / .955

4 HR

16 RBI

13 BB

19 SO

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