April 30, 2025Apr 30 17 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Hopefully he will get some time to train for his new career… Selling buildings made out of futuristic blue cubes?
April 30, 2025Apr 30 Part of the problem is that these young kids are anointed as saviors for this organization way before they're ready. It can absolutely mess with the head of a young kid just trying to put it all together when everyone looks at them to solve the organizations massive problems. This of course comes from the fact that the team refuses to bring in actual, proven major league players, so the only thing fans have to lean on is prospects. Bringing them to "soxfest" and already pretending they are future household names is a horrible idea. It might not effect all, but I believe it absolutely has played a role in Colson's struggles.
April 30, 2025Apr 30 7 minutes ago, TheBooneLoganEra said: Part of the problem is that these young kids are anointed as saviors for this organization way before they're ready. It can absolutely mess with the head of a young kid just trying to put it all together when everyone looks at them to solve the organizations massive problems. This of course comes from the fact that the team refuses to bring in actual, proven major league players, so the only thing fans have to lean on is prospects. Bringing them to "soxfest" and already pretending they are future household names is a horrible idea. It might not effect all, but I believe it absolutely has played a role in Colson's struggles. Colson lived his entire life as the great hype. Dude was known statewide in three sports and was being followed in three different sports fanbases, including basketball in Indiana, as a target of IU. Pretty sure the spotlight didn't bug him.
April 30, 2025Apr 30 13 minutes ago, KipWellsFan said: Selling buildings made out of futuristic blue cubes? I can see how you'd see that. Pretty sure those are streamers or whatever that are hung from the light posts.
April 30, 2025Apr 30 23 minutes ago, JoeC said: I can see how you'd see that. Pretty sure those are streamers or whatever that are hung from the light posts. Yes, I notice that now.
April 30, 2025Apr 30 16 hours ago, Dick Allen said: Nothing to worry about. The Sox have a hitting guru. We took some good swings for a minute .
April 30, 2025Apr 30 4 hours ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Most successful organizations have the structure and tools in place at each level to work on failings like this. You'll notice other teams aren't sending AAA top prospects to Arizona. This, if anything, is another large black eye on the developmental skills and tenure of Chris Getz. I mean, as far as I know, the things people worried about when he was drafted are mostly the things he has trouble with. Perhaps it’s the flawed player and not always the “developmental programs”
April 30, 2025Apr 30 8 minutes ago, Chick Mercedes said: I mean, as far as I know, the things people worried about when he was drafted are mostly the things he has trouble with. Perhaps it’s the flawed player and not always the “developmental programs” Pretty much every player is flawed somehow when drafted. That's why not everyone is a #1 draft pick.
April 30, 2025Apr 30 8 minutes ago, Chick Mercedes said: I mean, as far as I know, the things people worried about when he was drafted are mostly the things he has trouble with. Perhaps it’s the flawed player and not always the “developmental programs” It would help their reputation a bit if someone once every 10 years or so, comes out of their system looking like they know how to hit.
April 30, 2025Apr 30 10 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: It would help their reputation a bit if someone once every 10 years or so, comes out of their system looking like they know how to hit. Also this. Look if we had some examples of oh yeah, these guys all made it, so maybe that means these other guys who failed had their own issues. But when you have to go back almost a decade to find a true success story, that probably isn't the general theme here. They can't ALL be someone else's fault.
April 30, 2025Apr 30 1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said: Colson lived his entire life as the great hype. Dude was known statewide in three sports and was being followed in three different sports fanbases, including basketball in Indiana, as a target of IU. Pretty sure the spotlight didn't bug him. Spotlight and unrealistic expectations are two different things.
April 30, 2025Apr 30 I think he's a big tall guy that has back issues and even when he's in a groove has a lot of swing and miss in his game. He obviously is closer to a Moncada type player than say Quero. What I mean is that some guys take walks because they don't like to swing very often, other guys take walks because they like to only swing at good pitches. Big difference especially when you get to levels were pitchers can control the zone against a batter. As to the move itself, it's a good one. This is something they should be doing more often when guys are struggling this bad. Let them refresh, get some time with a GF or family and a hitting coach pumping them up against relative scrubs on the back fields for a week or so. It can't hurt.
April 30, 2025Apr 30 5 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: I was going to say — has this ever happened before? Yes, the Diamondbacks did that with Geraldo Perdomo. https://soxmachine.com/2025/04/pregame-notes-colson-goes-west Quote Getz referenced Diamondbacks shortstop Geraldo Perdomo undergoing a similar process in his development while Josh Barfield was running player development in Arizona, The White Sox are hopeful Montgomery will return to Triple-A Charlotte within a week or two and this process may see Montgomery play in some extended spring games, but some progress likely needs to happen first.
April 30, 2025Apr 30 To me he looks like he forgot he has Indiana red neck strength and doesn't have to try to murder the ball every time he swings. He got long and started pulling off on every swing and now he's completely screwed up.
April 30, 2025Apr 30 6 hours ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Most successful organizations have the structure and tools in place at each level to work on failings like this. You'll notice other teams aren't sending AAA top prospects to Arizona. This, if anything, is another large black eye on the developmental skills and tenure of Chris Getz. The same guy who screams that Getz isn't blazing new trails in organization building, then screams about any outside-of-the-box thinking. Edited April 30, 2025Apr 30 by WestEddy
April 30, 2025Apr 30 1 hour ago, WestEddy said: The same guy who screams that Getz isn't blazing new trails in organization building, then screams about any outside-of-the-box thinking. Ahhh, got it. Ruin the player so he's so bad he can get custom one on one help. Brilliant thinking, not sure why i didn't think of that.
April 30, 2025Apr 30 19 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Ahhh, got it. Ruin the player so he's so bad he can get custom one on one help. Brilliant thinking, not sure why i didn't think of that. Can you tell us how they "ruined" him? And why working with him to get his swing right is bad?
April 30, 2025Apr 30 36 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Ahhh, got it. Ruin the player so he's so bad he can get custom one on one help. Brilliant thinking, not sure why i didn't think of that. The sox have earned zero benefit of the doubt, but at the same time, it's not like Colson is completely helpless in this situation. The org and the player both deserve blame for this.
April 30, 2025Apr 30 14 minutes ago, Snopek said: The sox have earned zero benefit of the doubt, but at the same time, it's not like Colson is completely helpless in this situation. The org and the player both deserve blame for this. Every FO answer about C. Monty mentions working with his agency coaching team. I wonder how much that's causing a mix-up of messaging.
April 30, 2025Apr 30 10 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Every FO answer about C. Monty mentions working with his agency coaching team. I wonder how much that's causing a mix-up of messaging. Weren't you just the one talking about how it wasn't unusual for players to work with outside people in the off-season, and that it wasn't a reason for worry?
April 30, 2025Apr 30 8 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Weren't you just the one talking about how it wasn't unusual for players to work with outside people in the off-season, and that it wasn't a reason for worry? I'm sure more people than just me understand that most players seek outside help on their games, either from sources like Driveline, or their own agencies. I'm not sure what about my question is confusing.
April 30, 2025Apr 30 10 minutes ago, WestEddy said: I'm sure more people than just me understand that most players seek outside help on their games, either from sources like Driveline, or their own agencies. I'm not sure what about my question is confusing. Well your "question" is phrased more as a classic deflection to blame someone else, but in the framework of you previously saying how acceptable it was recently to now trying to use it as a blame stick seems like a significant stretch to me.
April 30, 2025Apr 30 Another unaddressed question is why he struggles so much with fastballs up (and inside) in the zone but can murder the majority of low stuff? Just a notorious trait of most LHB'ers? Too selective, behind in counts the majority of at-bats. Lots of called strikes looking, maybe guessing too much? Obviously trying to impress scouts by showing off power instead of taking more balls to the opposite field.. thus pulling off a lot of pitches or swinging through anything on the outside or high zone of the plate. But Montgomery's approach has changed in the past two years, when he has become much more focused on launching balls in the air to his pull side, and his swing decisions regressed last season as his chase rate jumped to 30 percent from 17 percent in 2023. He still has 30-homer pop and draws his share of walks, but he's a career .253 hitter through his first four years as a pro. Edited April 30, 2025Apr 30 by caulfield12
April 30, 2025Apr 30 9 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Well your "question" is phrased more as a classic deflection to blame someone else, but in the framework of you previously saying how acceptable it was recently to now trying to use it as a blame stick seems like a significant stretch to me. Yeah, none of that is happening, here. You like the word "deflection". Can you tell me what you feel is being deflected from? Do you not feel it's "acceptable" for players to seek outside help in their game? You seem to be arguing different things, here.
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