JoshPR Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 3 hours ago, ptatc said: With his stuff, I think he gets a longer leash. He could benefit by throwing a cutter. His 4 seamer is so straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 3 hours ago, ptatc said: Jenkins wasnt until later in the season. First it was Takatsu (the frisbee) them hermannson, who both got hurt. They brought Jenks up from the minors into a playoff run. Hence my last sentence/comment...three closers in one season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 3 hours ago, ptatc said: True. But I think they keep working with him. As palette, Coffey and others start to come up his role will be diminished. Pallette doesn't throw harder than Leasure though...he better have some dominant offspeed stuff if he's going to be a high leverage reliever at the next level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 Is Taylor destined to stay in the bullpen or will he (hopefully) be a starter down the road? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 1 hour ago, soxfan49 said: Is Taylor destined to stay in the bullpen or will he (hopefully) be a starter down the road? Getz and Bannister have both repeated said the plan is for him to eventually start. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autumn Dreamin Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 2 hours ago, WestEddy said: Getz and Bannister have both repeated said the plan is for him to eventually start. I believe they said they are still open to the possibility not that he was for sure. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 18 hours ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Kenny Williams was 1000 times the GM Getz is. No idea how anyone could argue otherwise. I kind of think good franchises have farm systems. So there you go. Getz has the right idea even if a wrong execution . Fire him if you want to. Keep the outline. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 18 hours ago, Dick Allen said: Depends which version. Although technically not the GM after 2012, he lost it. It was weird. He was always able to get guys who could hit. They might not be able to run or field, but they could hit. Then suddenly just about everyone he picked up couldn't hit, like the Sox had no idea how to recognize hitting. Kenny’s philosophy about paying great players was exact same as Jerry. As in, not gonna. Whatever one would want to say about Kenny’s capped ceiling design teams that makes you tingly, he was a fatally flawed entity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 3 hours ago, Chick Mercedes said: Kenny’s philosophy about paying great players was exact same as Jerry. As in, not gonna. Whatever one would want to say about Kenny’s capped ceiling design teams that makes you tingly, he was a fatally flawed entity. Can't spend a dollar if you only have 50 cents. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 Taylor works fast and throws strikes. My kind of pitcher. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falstaff Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 On 6/10/2025 at 7:21 AM, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Kenny Williams was 1000 times the GM Getz is. No idea how anyone could argue otherwise. Kenny had a good run, ring and all. Getz is learning on the fly and is shopping at the Dollar Store. I like some of his moves, let's see what he can get for Robert jr. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 10 minutes ago, Falstaff said: Kenny had a good run, ring and all. Getz is learning on the fly and is shopping at the Dollar Store. I like some of his moves, let's see what he can get for Robert jr. He won't get much for him unless Robert really heats up for the next month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nardiwashere Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 On 6/10/2025 at 7:21 AM, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Kenny Williams was 1000 times the GM Getz is. No idea how anyone could argue otherwise. Getz has been a GM for like a year and a half. In Kenny Williams' first year or two, he traded for the wrong player because he had a similar name to the guy they wanted. What do you think everyone's reaction here would be if that happened today? I always liked Kenny Williams but how are you comparing a guy who held the job for like 15 years to a guy who has had about 20 months? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 Did Kenny sign off on the stupid Tatis trade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 13 hours ago, Autumn Dreamin said: There's a whole lot goin on there. Woof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: There's a whole lot goin on there. Woof Like his delivery? A lot of guys are using that pivot towards 1st base now, especially the fireballers. Not sure if it's great for the arm but it does deliver force. As far as his stuff, looks like a closer 100% to me but who knows in today's age if they can get him up to 85 pitches and 4-5 innings that's good enough to move to SP. Edited June 11 by chitownsportsfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Deep Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 Why don't we let this work itself out. We won't know for another 2-3 years if Taylor is a starter or relief pitcher, Like Sale and Crochet. Right now just enjoy the kid pitch and help the beloved. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 9 minutes ago, 2Deep said: Why don't we let this work itself out. We won't know for another 2-3 years if Taylor is a starter or relief pitcher, Like Sale and Crochet. Right now just enjoy the kid pitch and help the beloved. Agree but big difference is Sale and Crochet got that LHP advantage. Easier to transition to starter when you're neutering the opposition's big left handed boppers a couple times through the lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autumn Dreamin Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2025/06/10/white-sox-pitching-prospect-grant-taylor-forced-his-way-to-the-majors Quote Because of his injuries — which limited him to 46 minor-league innings — the Sox wanted to use him in shorter bursts, despite his velocity. They have a history of transitioning starters to relievers, then stretching them back out — such as they did with left-hander Garrett Crochet before his breakout 2024 season. The team thinks pitching out of the bullpen will help Taylor stay healthy. Manager Will Venable said Taylor won’t pitch in back-to-back games at first and eventually will fill a multi-inning role. ‘‘The guy just performed so well that he’s forced his way up here,’’ Venable said. ‘‘You’ll see some of that protection here because he made it hard not to call him up.’’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoSoxMan Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 On 6/9/2025 at 8:20 PM, Harold's Leg Lift said: There are five pitchers in the league who are Taylor's height or shorter and have as much or more extension than Taylor and all five pitchers are relievers including this fella named Edwin Diaz. I guess someone finally shared Bannisters note on Taylor with Garrett! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 Now I'm sure this dumbass piece of s%*# @admin ......I mean troll is trying to tell me something but for the life of me I still can't figure out what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoSoxMan Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 17 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: Now I'm sure this dumbass piece of s%*# @admin ......I mean troll is trying to tell me something but for the life of me I still can't figure out what it is. Not trying to tell you anything. Just love to see the assistant scouting director coming and passing off insights from the sox org to the rest of us. @Y2Jimmy0 would be cool to do a feature on the scouting department. Its pretty awesome they let scouts hang with us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 Ah I read a quote from bannister saying he gets too much extension (perhaps) for a starter and that leaves him injury prone. Be interesting to see what they do with him. For now he’s clearly fine coming out of the pen IMO. Let him get some innings and see how his pitch mix looks so you head into offseason with more knowledge and data against MLB hitters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 (edited) 7 hours ago, Nardiwashere said: Getz has been a GM for like a year and a half. In Kenny Williams' first year or two, he traded for the wrong player because he had a similar name to the guy they wanted. What do you think everyone's reaction here would be if that happened today? I always liked Kenny Williams but how are you comparing a guy who held the job for like 15 years to a guy who has had about 20 months? "Jeff] Barry hit .290 in Triple-A and had a .163 average in 49 major-league at-bats in '95 and '98. The Sox originally thought they were getting Class-A right-hander Jonathan Berry , but a "miscommunication" problem between the two teams led to Williams accepting Barry instead. Williams said the Sox would "honor" the trade despite the mixup on an apparent last-minute throw-in." Soxmachine.com Except none of these players mattered in the least. But it made for a great sound bite...like Olivo/Bradford in Moneyball. But then Olivo/Morse/Reed led to F.Garcia and Loiaza/Contreras pushed the Sox over the top eventually...as winning at the big league level was the JR priority, so the farm system was utilized by Williams to acquire more reliable veterans the managers could trust. Edited June 11 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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