Y2Jimmy0 Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago 3 hours ago, Lukakke Appling said: Are you at all concerned the Rays will try to push him down to 2 (assuming he’s still the clear 1) with their enormous pool, or am I just being paranoid? Not worried yet. It’s not really their style. Sox can just take the player. He’ll sign. Only potential issue is not knowing how much you have throughout rest of draft. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 4 hours ago, Lukakke Appling said: Are you at all concerned the Rays will try to push him down to 2 (assuming he’s still the clear 1) with their enormous pool, or am I just being paranoid? And even just the extra money they get in the top slot for the 5% overage adds up to some decent cash cash, let alone what they can save under slot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 1 hour ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: Not worried yet. It’s not really their style. Sox can just take the player. He’ll sign. Only potential issue is not knowing how much you have throughout rest of draft. How can they even do that? If the Sox draft him, he either takes the deal or takes a massive gamble on going back to college to make $1-2 mil more on his contract next year? While delaying his free agency timeline by an entire year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 7 minutes ago, ron883 said: How can they even do that? If the Sox draft him, he either takes the deal or takes a massive gamble on going back to college to make $1-2 mil more on his contract next year? While delaying his free agency timeline by an entire year. They will know his demands when they draft him. Also keep in mind the slot difference between pick 1 and 2 is almost a million dollars. If someone demands full slot and overplays their hand and drops from 1 to 2, they cost themselves a lot of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 22 minutes ago, ron883 said: How can they even do that? If the Sox draft him, he either takes the deal or takes a massive gamble on going back to college to make $1-2 mil more on his contract next year? While delaying his free agency timeline by an entire year. It won’t happen. This is overthinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukakke Appling Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 40 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: They will know his demands when they draft him. Also keep in mind the slot difference between pick 1 and 2 is almost a million dollars. If someone demands full slot and overplays their hand and drops from 1 to 2, they cost themselves a lot of money. The idea is they would have an above slot agreement at 2 on hand. But yes, I’m sure I’m overthinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said: They will know his demands when they draft him. Also keep in mind the slot difference between pick 1 and 2 is almost a million dollars. If someone demands full slot and overplays their hand and drops from 1 to 2, they cost themselves a lot of money. Even if he has "demands", he has no leverage if they pick him 1st. If he wants 11m but they offer 10m, all he can do is go back to college which is a HUGE gamble. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 25 minutes ago, Lukakke Appling said: The idea is they would have an above slot agreement at 2 on hand. But yes, I’m sure I’m overthinking. But they can't do anything if the Sox pick him. What, he chooses to go back to college over a $1mil difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 1 minute ago, ron883 said: But they can't do anything if the Sox pick him. What, he chooses to go back to college over a $1mil difference? No, which is why this discussion is pointless. The Sox will sign the top pick in the draft, regardless of who it is. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 2 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: No, which is why this discussion is pointless. The Sox will sign the top pick in the draft, regardless of who it is. That's what I thought. That's why I didn't understand this talk of "what if the Rays have a deal with him for more money." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 13 minutes ago, ron883 said: Even if he has "demands", he has no leverage if they pick him 1st. If he wants 11m but they offer 10m, all he can do is go back to college which is a HUGE gamble. And if the Sox make him the nominal offer, they get the 2nd overall pick as well as their regular 1st rounder in next year's draft. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 20 minutes ago, ron883 said: Even if he has "demands", he has no leverage if they pick him 1st. If he wants 11m but they offer 10m, all he can do is go back to college which is a HUGE gamble. No one else can offer him 11 mil in reality. Tampa would punt 5+ signings to save a million bucks to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 9 hours ago, ron883 said: How can they even do that? If the Sox draft him, he either takes the deal or takes a massive gamble on going back to college to make $1-2 mil more on his contract next year? While delaying his free agency timeline by an entire year. Right. It’s unlikely 8 hours ago, ron883 said: That's what I thought. That's why I didn't understand this talk of "what if the Rays have a deal with him for more money." It’s not about losing the player. Sox slot will be around $11.3. Rays will be like $10.5. Rays have $20 million to spend. Nobody has ever gotten more than $9.3. The only issue is Rays theoretically offering full slot at 2 and Sox having to potentially pay more than they’d like to. They’ll take the player regardless. 8 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: No one else can offer him 11 mil in reality. Tampa would punt 5+ signings to save a million bucks to do it. TB and Pittsburgh both could easily. TB has $20 million and Pirates have $19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 58 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: Right. It’s unlikely It’s not about losing the player. Sox slot will be around $11.3. Rays will be like $10.5. Rays have $20 million to spend. Nobody has ever gotten more than $9.3. The only issue is Rays theoretically offering full slot at 2 and Sox having to potentially pay more than they’d like to. They’ll take the player regardless. TB and Pittsburgh both could easily. TB has $20 million and Pirates have $19 And how much do we have? i realllllly want another comp pick in a Robert deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: And how much do we have? i realllllly want another comp pick in a Robert deal Right around $18.6 million using the 5% overage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 8 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: And how much do we have? i realllllly want another comp pick in a Robert deal I think if Seattle doesn’t land Marte or Donovan, maybe they can look to the Sox for Sosa. They have a comp pick too. And they once dealt their comp pick to us in a deal for a reliever. Edited 1 hour ago by Bob Sacamano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted 23 minutes ago Share Posted 23 minutes ago 2 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: Right. It’s unlikely It’s not about losing the player. Sox slot will be around $11.3. Rays will be like $10.5. Rays have $20 million to spend. Nobody has ever gotten more than $9.3. The only issue is Rays theoretically offering full slot at 2 and Sox having to potentially pay more than they’d like to. They’ll take the player regardless. TB and Pittsburgh both could easily. TB has $20 million and Pirates have $19 How many slots would they have to punt on to make it work? It would look like the Sox 2020 draft. You got Crochet and literally nothing else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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