2 hours ago2 hr 4 minutes ago, WestEddy said:This seems like a good idea. Honestly, I would probably dump Hays because you know he’s just going to get injured again.
2 hours ago2 hr 1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said:Five days or less until Detmers is a White Sox. Just a prediction, but I am very confident it happens. Soxtalk won’t be a fun place afterwards if it does…lol.anyone telegraphed this long is unlikely to happen, imo.
2 hours ago2 hr I think Hagan Smith is the starting point for Detmers, I wouldn't give up Bonemer or Carlson for him. If you gave up say Hagan, Lodise, and Gabe Davis (I personally think that is a little light) for Detmers, and Mason Adams, Landon Hodge, and Mongollon for Singer and Stevenson, that would be great with me. Add in Hays for a mid inning reliever.
2 hours ago2 hr 14 minutes ago, Rusty_Kuntz said:I think Hagan Smith is the starting point for Detmers, I wouldn't give up Bonemer or Carlson for him.If you gave up say Hagan, Lodise, and Gabe Davis (I personally think that is a little light) for Detmers, and Mason Adams, Landon Hodge, and Mongollon for Singer and Stevenson, that would be great with me. Add in Hays for a mid inning reliever.I wouldn't even blink at this.At this point I have extreme doubts that Smith is a starter.
2 hours ago2 hr 17 minutes ago, fathom said:This guy isn’t legitI know. It's out there, tho. Here's another:
2 hours ago2 hr 45 minutes ago, WestEddy said:It makes a lot of sense if either of them have enough value to get there. It could even be a dump for a nothing MiLB player to get the roster spot open.
2 hours ago2 hr 11 minutes ago, Thesieve300 said:Start by trading Reinsdorf for an average street vendorNow we are talking overpay.
1 hour ago1 hr Grichuk being healthy and productive this year (and making league minimum) would make him much more attractive to teams. But also, I would probably want to keep him over Hays.
1 hour ago1 hr 2 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said:Five days or less until Detmers is a White Sox. Just a prediction, but I am very confident it happens. Soxtalk won’t be a fun place afterwards if it does…lol.I'd be very surprised. Asking price sounds astronomical. 1 hour ago, WestEddy said:Fake account 33 minutes ago, WestEddy said:I know. It's out there, tho. Here's another:Fake account.
1 hour ago1 hr 3 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:It could be if he goes for less than people think he’ll go forMy official prediction is Carlson, Quero, & Adams and I think most people will hate that.
1 hour ago1 hr 5 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:My official prediction is Carlson, Quero, & Adams and I think most people will hate that.If this was the price for Detmers, I think he'd be here already.
1 hour ago1 hr 7 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:If this was the price for Detmers, I think he'd be here already.Well that is awful decision making by the White Sox if they are willing to give up a high upside prospect like Carlson for a pitcher like Detmers. It is paying a premium for cost control vs. eliteness and that is not a trade off this organization should ever make. If you want to move Carlson in a package for Miller - I don't love it, but I get behind the fact you are getting an elite cost controlled player, but at a less premium position. That is an acceptable trade off.
1 hour ago1 hr 14 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said:I noticed this is the minor league thread. Very weird they used him in this capacity when we are desperate for SP and have already punted on Hagen & McDougal being used in those roles.It’s really hard for me to see Hagen succeed in the bullpen when his biggest problem is putting it over the plate.
1 hour ago1 hr 35 minutes ago, hi8is said:I don’t trust this Travis Hudson guy… simply because of his profile picture.Good eye. It's a stock photohttps://tineye.com/search/6ad0d4a58793380a3b61991570f2bd0847a25962?sort=score&order=desc&page=1
1 hour ago1 hr 5 minutes ago, Chisoxfn said:Well that is awful decision making by the White Sox if they are willing to give up a high upside prospect like Carlson for a pitcher like Detmers. It is paying a premium for cost control vs. eliteness and that is not a trade off this organization should ever make. If you want to move Carlson in a package for Miller - I don't love it, but I get behind the fact you are getting an elite cost controlled player, but at a less premium position. That is an acceptable trade off.Detmers is pretty damn good.
1 hour ago1 hr 10 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:If this was the price for Detmers, I think he'd be here already.I would bet money that package is better than what he goes for.
1 hour ago1 hr 51 minutes ago, WestEddy said:I know. It's out there, tho. Here's another:You need to start posting only legit insiders, like Bartolo’s bungholio.
1 hour ago1 hr 14 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:If this was the price for Detmers, I think he'd be here already.Really? Wow. I already thought pitchers were going to be outrageously expensive but even I’m surprised by that.
1 hour ago1 hr 1 hour ago, SoxBlanco said:Do you think he will go for more or less than this package?Hagen Smith, Kyle Lodise, Colby SheltonWill require more than that.
1 hour ago1 hr 1 hour ago, nrockway said:A lot less. Lodise or Bergolla or someone of that tier (who is not underperforming and undervalued, ie Oppor) should be the headliner. Bergolla and Mogollon seem like nice pieces to me but have a difficult path to the MLB roster and don't clearly show star upside the way that Carlson or Smith do (and Bonemer obviously but he's going no where).A guy whose upside is 'mid rotation starter' but has shown over 6 MLB seasons to be a 5th starter/swingman type is not returning a top 50 prospect and more.Dude…this is nowhere close to reality. Detmers is a former top 50 prospect who finally figured things out under Mike Maddux and who currently has the peripherals of a high end SP. His value with 2 1/3 years of control is going to be very high. People pay for expected go-forward performance and not past.Meanwhile, Lodise isn’t even an org top 20 guy for me and Bergolla is semi interesting due to age & hit tool, but lacks ceiling and is also currently injured again. They are nothing but secondary pieces in a trade for Detmers. Fine if you don’t like the player or price, but let’s avoid creating false realities here.
1 hour ago1 hr 1 hour ago, bmags said:anyone telegraphed this long is unlikely to happen, imo.I agree that’s almost always the case…I just think no team is in need of a controllable SP more than us and Getz push hard to land one.
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