Just now, Jake said:

TBH, I'm not sure that Liam Hicks makes all that much sense for the Sox. Sketchy defense, zero power, offensive numbers smell a bit like bad luck, lefty bat. Probably going to cost too much because of team control.

Yeah no thanks to a lefty hitting catcher

When's an acceptable time to start drinking today?

1 minute ago, DoUEvenShift said:

When's an acceptable time to start drinking today?

You haven't started?

15 minutes ago, Jake said:

Doyle isn't making money and has minor league options. We don't even know if he's going to be in Chicago. If the risk is that the Sox can't resist giving bad players at bats, then there's nothing that can be done to save them.

Another way to think on Doyle is look at Peters lack of offensive production - we’re still winning with that absent production.

Perhaps we gain some offense at catcher while we also start working towards a Vargas like turn around with Doyle.

A lot of the problems Vargas had before breaking out mirror the issues Doyle has had over the last year and a half… and he also has been hurt.

Just returned Friday so the health issue is no longer a concern, apparently.

It’s either a sneaky move or it fails.

Think the Sox were calling?

14 minutes ago, fathom said:

Yep and it’s taking quite the risk assuming someone will pitch better leaving a pitcher’s park (with great pitching development) for a hitter’s park.

He pitched well in his most recent starts in Cleveland and in Detroit - both times going 6 and giving up only 1 ER.

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5 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

We literally had Derek Hill for this role and traded him becuase we felt covered in CF against LHP with Pereira & Acuna. It’s fine if they no longer feel that way, but I would have pursued a different option than this. I have zero confidence in this guy batting against lefties in a playoff game. Also, it’s not like this guy came free…we gave up two legitimate prospects. I know it’s fun to downplay Adams around here, but he could have used for some other upgrade.

Again, I’m hoping they plan to send him to Charlotte and let him work through s%*# before considering him an option for the major league squad. If this is a hedge for Pereira as the platoon CF and not a replacement I’d feel much better.

I’m not gonna argue Hill because clearly that guy found something and has continued with it, but you saying you would feel more comfortable with Doyle as the platoon with Pereira is very strange considering how little Pereira has played and honestly how chaotic everything has been with him. Up until his good game yesterday he was straight garbage, replacing him with someone who won’t get hurt every couple weeks doesn’t bother me at all. At least you can rely on them. Every angle Pereira takes makes me wonder if he will get to the ball

nvm

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8 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:

See these aren’t all the same argument. You are arguing two separate things, player abilities and the teams finances. These are not the same discussion and what I am currently discussing is how these players fit in and play with this team until the end of this contending season. You are worried about what happens in a strike season and honestly you should throw that out the fuckin window

In regard to who?

I don’t think you should be buying projects at the deadline for the most part. That was the point of my post. Jake said it’s dumb to look at past performance when evaluating potential acquisitions and I don’t agree when there are only two moths left in the season. The window to contribute is incredibly short and if “fixes” are required to derive value out of a player then that’s risky.

I think Castillo is upgrade over Schultz & Fedde, but how much is the big question. And that comes down to whatever fixes they have in mind. I would have preferred someone with a higher floor (doesn’t require fixes to provide a meaningful upgrade) or a higher ceiling (someone who if fixed can greatly increase your chances in the post season). And for the overall cost I don’t love it, but that’s admittedly more of a 2027 concern.

Not sure what part of my opinion you are disagreeing with.

So which rental SP are left?

3 minutes ago, Jake said:

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Rays love Marlins catchers I guess.

Padres love to show up to the dance floor and drop a bunch of black cat fireworks on the floor then start dancing

Other teams are getting better. Besides bullpen i cant say the same about us

23 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

This guy has been Romo levels of bad with the bat.

This is simply not true. Tell me the last time Romo hit 23 bombs, stole 30 bases, and gave you 70 RBI while providing gold glove defense.

Yes, he regressed last year and has sucked this season but he has been hurt… and his advanced metrics are flashing the same problems that Miggy had before we turned him into a monster.

After taking some time to dig into this initial head scratcher, I fully get it.

Just now, BigHurt3515 said:

Other teams are getting better. Besides bullpen i cant say the same about us

Oh for christ sake

Just now, BigHurt3515 said:

Other teams are getting better. Besides bullpen i cant say the same about us

Yeah, if there are no further moves, I would be underwhelmed.

1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said:

In regard to who?

I don’t think you should be buying projects at the deadline for the most part. That was the point of my post. Jake said it’s dumb to look at past performance when evaluating potential acquisitions and I don’t agree when there are only two moths left in the season. The window to contribute is incredibly short and if “fixes” are required to derive value out of a player then that’s risky.

I think Castillo is upgrade over Schultz & Fedde, but how much is the big question. And that comes down to whatever fixes they have in mind. I would have preferred someone with a higher floor (doesn’t require fixes to provide a meaningful upgrade) or a higher ceiling (someone who if fixed can greatly increase your chances in the post season). And for the overall cost I don’t love it, but that’s admittedly more of a 2027 concern.

Not sure what part of my opinion you are disagreeing with.

I said what???

1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said:

In regard to who?

I don’t think you should be buying projects at the deadline for the most part. That was the point of my post. Jake said it’s dumb to look at past performance when evaluating potential acquisitions and I don’t agree when there are only two moths left in the season. The window to contribute is incredibly short and if “fixes” are required to derive value out of a player then that’s risky.

I think Castillo is upgrade over Schultz & Fedde, but how much is the big question. And that comes down to whatever fixes they have in mind. I would have preferred someone with a higher floor (doesn’t require fixes to provide a meaningful upgrade) or a higher ceiling (someone who if fixed can greatly increase your chances in the post season). And for the overall cost I don’t love it, but that’s admittedly more of a 2027 concern.

Not sure what part of my opinion you are disagreeing with.

I disagree with you insisting this is some sort of massive risk that they cannot recover from

Nobody in the top 100. #3, #17, & #25 in top 30.

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6 minutes ago, fathom said:

They want a righty due to their lineup construction

That didn't stop them from getting best bat available with Luis Garcia, Jr.. Yankees like lefties in Yankees stadium. They can take some of our RHH off our hands even though our RHH lineup doesn't produce enough either.

22 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

If we raise our payroll by 50% next offseason, Castillo will represent about 1/6 of it in total. Let’s not pretend it’s not a meaningful amount of money.

yeah, 8 figures is always a significant amount of money to Jerry. The money SHOULD be there, but 45 years of conditioning teach me otherwise.

6 minutes ago, Jake said:

Think the Sox were calling?

Probalby owed over $50 million the rest of this year and next. No chance it was JR.

3 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:

I’m not gonna argue Hill because clearly that guy found something and has continued with it, but you saying you would feel more comfortable with Doyle as the platoon with Pereira is very strange considering how little Pereira has played and honestly how chaotic everything has been with him. Up until his good game yesterday he was straight garbage, replacing him with someone who won’t get hurt every couple weeks doesn’t bother me at all. At least you can rely on them. Every angle Pereira takes makes me wonder if he will get to the ball

I don't know if Hill has "found something" in PHI. He's striking out 41% of the time and has a .424 BABIP and his expected numbers are worse than they were with the Sox. Not really something to lose sleep over.

1 minute ago, WestEddy said:

Fake account IIRC