1 minute ago, chw42 said:

Sure, but when 2 of your best hitters give you nothing, it's a lot harder to win.

I'm not blaming the offense but they had chances to score more....bad bit of situational hitting by Mune with no outs and a pitcher not throwing strikes.

3 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

I mentioned it around the deadline, but this has kind of a 2020/2012 vibe where the pitching was extended past where their talents and abilities were, and it wouldn't surprise me if a lot of these guys had struggles. The offense I am not as worried about, as there are some definite boom and bust guys in a bust cycle. The pitching just has so many guys either at their limits, or regressing to their historic norms that this shouldn't be a surprise.

Great post. Was just going to post that this is reminding me of the 2020 team that ran out of starters for the playoffs even in the shortened season.

Two of the worst losses of the year. Starting to feel like a young team that doesn't have enough pitching or composure.

Shane Smith pitched (well) today. So there's one viable option to cover tomorrow's game not available. Of course, I'm not sure that the Sox would have felt comfortable bringing him up even for a quasi-emergency start with how his last couple times out looked. Noah and Sandlin can't be called up without a major league injury. Thorpe pitched yesterday. Urquidy will have 4 days rest tomorrow off of a 2 inning start (don't think he was pulled for performance reasons). Cannon has been pitching surprisingly well but he pitched on Tuesday, so not an option for immediate help. Not sure if there might be someone else I'm not thinking of or if they might try to cobble together another bullpen game. Urquidy seems like the guy if they are going to bring up a starter. And you'd probably send Tanner down.

1 minute ago, chitownsportsfan said:

Two of the worst losses of the year. Starting to feel like a young team that doesn't have enough pitching or composure.

Feels like a team that needed to add another SP at the deadline.

2 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Great post. Was just going to post that this is reminding me of the 2020 team that ran out of starters for the playoffs even in the shortened season.

That was crazy that they had like no one to start game 3

Just now, Bob Sacamano said:

Feels like a team that needed to add another SP at the deadline.

Price was high. I get not going for it. Also sucks to be going through this right now down the stretch.

1 minute ago, Bob Sacamano said:

Feels like a team that needed to add another SP at the deadline.

Like I said then, Chris Getz is not playing for 2026.

2 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

Feels like a team that needed to add another SP at the deadline.

Yep, bad look to be short on pitching 10 days after the deadline.

2 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

Feels like a team that needed to add another SP at the deadline.

Would have been nice if the Reds would have traded Stephenson and not even to us just anywhere else....he killed us in the two losses.

2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Like I said then, Chris Getz is not playing for 2026.

Probably should be letting these young pitchers continue to work as starters in the minors

3 minutes ago, wegner said:

That was crazy that they had like no one to start game 3

I don't think it's that comparable. this team at least addressed its issues

3 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

Price was high. I get not going for it. Also sucks to be going through this right now down the stretch.

Was the price too high for a rental though??

1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said:

Like I said then, Chris Getz is not playing for 2026.

Or JR didn't allow him to?

Fegan with some interesting notes, comments on Martin:

"Discussion around Davis Martin still sounds like a pitcher trying to manage a physical issue of some stripe.

"Your mechanics, the way you feel physically, the way they feel mentally is going to change throughout the year and you have to figure out how to find the best version of yourself, and some of these guys are being challenged to do that for the first time, or being challenged in ways that they haven't had to find solutions for before," Venable said. "There's some mechanical stuff that he's working on, some things just as far as whether it's grips, tapping into some shapes. Also just physically, this guy has pitched so much this year and he's done so well and really carried a load. That's going to take a toll, and he's got to figure out as his body changes how to make sure that he can keep his mechanics and every thing in line."

Martin has a 6.83 ERA with a 14.4 percent strikeout rate since June 1, and the White Sox have gone 4-8 in those 12 outings."

Like Southside posted the pitching staff may have reached their limits overall.

2 minutes ago, wegner said:

That was crazy that they had like no one to start game 3

IIRC, it seemed like Cease was the guy if they were going to use a regular starter but they were justifiably not trusting him. Then they go with Dunning, which was also justifiable, but they pulled him right away and seemingly were just playing matchups. And then there was Rodon who I don't think had pitched much in the regular season but some felt might be ready to go...and then he came in and got hit around. I have a memory of Cease warming up but never coming in.

1 minute ago, Colome's Hat said:

I don't think it's that comparable. this team at least addressed its issues

Sorry, didn't mean it was comparable....was just going down an awful memory lane.

1 minute ago, Jake said:

IIRC, it seemed like Cease was the guy if they were going to use a regular starter but they were justifiably not trusting him. Then they go with Dunning, which was also justifiable, but they pulled him right away and seemingly were just playing matchups. And then there was Rodon who I don't think had pitched much in the regular season but some felt might be ready to go...and then he came in and got hit around. I have a memory of Cease warming up but never coming in.

Crochet getting hurt messed up the plans

1 minute ago, Jake said:

IIRC, it seemed like Cease was the guy if they were going to use a regular starter but they were justifiably not trusting him. Then they go with Dunning, which was also justifiable, but they pulled him right away and seemingly were just playing matchups. And then there was Rodon who I don't think had pitched much in the regular season but some felt might be ready to go...and then he came in and got hit around. I have a memory of Cease warming up but never coming in.

Crochet getting hurt screwed us in that game.

1 minute ago, wegner said:

Was the price too high for a rental though??

We'll never know, it didn't seem to be that high for other "contending" club though was it?

6 minutes ago, Jake said:

Shane Smith pitched (well) today. So there's one viable option to cover tomorrow's game not available. Of course, I'm not sure that the Sox would have felt comfortable bringing him up even for a quasi-emergency start with how his last couple times out looked. Noah and Sandlin can't be called up without a major league injury. Thorpe pitched yesterday. Urquidy will have 4 days rest tomorrow off of a 2 inning start (don't think he was pulled for performance reasons). Cannon has been pitching surprisingly well but he pitched on Tuesday, so not an option for immediate help. Not sure if there might be someone else I'm not thinking of or if they might try to cobble together another bullpen game. Urquidy seems like the guy if they are going to bring up a starter. And you'd probably send Tanner down.

Yeah, feels like it has to be Urquidy tomorrow.

1 minute ago, chitownsportsfan said:

Two of the worst losses of the year. Starting to feel like a young team that doesn't have enough pitching or composure.

Could get even uglier against the Tigers and Cubs. They are in a position to bust our balls.

2 minutes ago, tray said:

Could get even uglier against the Tigers and Cubs. They are in a position to bust our balls.

Two of the best offenses in baseball since ASB

2 minutes ago, Jake said:

IIRC, it seemed like Cease was the guy if they were going to use a regular starter but they were justifiably not trusting him. Then they go with Dunning, which was also justifiable, but they pulled him right away and seemingly were just playing matchups. And then there was Rodon who I don't think had pitched much in the regular season but some felt might be ready to go...and then he came in and got hit around. I have a memory of Cease warming up but never coming in.

I remember thinking that Foster should start but he came in later and didn't look good either. Amazing that we had Cease, Rodon and Crochet on that staff.

44 minutes ago, Goober said:

How the f you lose the series to the reds

Because the pitching sucked except for Castillo.

Fedde killed team again