South Side Fireworks Man Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 QUOTE(aboz56 @ Jan 30, 2005 -> 02:25 PM) How would this make sense, we'd have 6 starters. Maybe if Gooch is going to play SS, moving Uribe to 3B and putting Willie at 2B. Still wouldn't understand having 6 starters though, unless we can pawn off Garland on another team and get a 3B in return. How about a three way deal with the Angels? Dodgers get Crede, Angels get Weaver, Sox get Chone Figgins. Don't know about the Dodgers or Angels, but I'd do it in a heartbeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkokieSox Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 QUOTE(South Side Fireworks Man @ Jan 31, 2005 -> 12:13 AM) How about a three way deal with the Angels? Dodgers get Crede, Angels get Weaver, Sox get Chone Figgins. Don't know about the Dodgers or Angels, but I'd do it in a heartbeat. I don't think they would either, but ya, I'd do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelasDaddy0427 Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 I can't see why the Dodgers would do this and it leaves us without a 3B or SS depending on where Uribe plays... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 only way this trade would happen is if KW plans to make another deal happen. Or maybe encourage his brother to sign with us next year when we draft him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez Ghost (old) Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 I agree this is crap. But to cross-thread here, it would return a key figure in the Sox Tigers fight. Maybe Weaver could plunk Ordonez and start another fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sircaffey Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 QUOTE(Al Lopez's Ghost @ Jan 30, 2005 -> 06:37 PM) I agree this is crap. But to cross-thread here, it would return a key figure in the Sox Tigers fight. Maybe Weaver could plunk Ordonez and start another fight. Spin Weaver off on someone...It's not hard to trade a good SP to someone. Hinske is the odd-man out. Pick him up, and then spin Weaver off on someone. Weaver's trade value is much higher than Crede's at the moment. If the Dodgers were to do this, then do it. People have been bickering about Crede and how he hasn't done crap here, well now is the chance to trade him for someone good, and everyone is barking at it. I, for one, would do it in a heartbeat, and figure out somewhere to fill Crede's MVP like production... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Spin Weaver off on someone...It's not hard to trade a good SP to someone. Hinske is the odd-man out. Pick him up, and then spin Weaver off on someone. Weaver's trade value is much higher than Crede's at the moment. If the Dodgers were to do this, then do it. People have been bickering about Crede and how he hasn't done crap here, well now is the chance to trade him for someone good, and everyone is barking at it. I, for one, would do it in a heartbeat, and figure out somewhere to fill Crede's MVP like production... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> $$$$$ Crede doesn't make that much, Weaver makes big coin, $7M or more. Sox would not do this deal, they cannot pick up this much payroll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sircaffey Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 QUOTE(JimH @ Jan 30, 2005 -> 07:02 PM) $$$$$ Crede doesn't make that much, Weaver makes big coin, $7M or more. Sox would not do this deal, they cannot pick up this much payroll. I wouldn't see the Sox keep Weaver around....I think he would be traded right away. As someone mentioned, Toronto would be a good fit with Hinske available and maybe a pen arm or a couple of good prospects or whatnot... Or, if Jerry wants to spend the money, let him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 I don't see this happening. And I'll hurt myself if that means Jose Valentin is coming back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Is Eric Hinske any better than Crediocre? He makes a lot more money as of now and has produuced marginally better. I think Eric will wind up in Cinci sooner or later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittleWalk83 Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 The White Sox have five starters on Jan 30th. Big deal. If somebody gets hurts. Somebody isn't pitching well. What then?? Better to have more of something than less. I would rather have 6 starters than 4. And when El Do nothing proves he's a fraud we'll all be screaming for another starter. But I'm not a Weaver fan. Also when Jim McMahon was with the SD Chargers be blew snot on T J Simers because McMahon didn't like some of the things Simers wrote. Proving once again what a jerk McMahon really was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Jan 31, 2005 -> 03:51 PM) Is Eric Hinske any better than Crediocre? He makes a lot more money as of now and has produuced marginally better. I think Eric will wind up in Cinci sooner or later. That's unlikely to happen considering they have Sean Casey at 1st, and they signed Joe Randa to play 3rd base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 you gotta just wonder where some of these ideas come from =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABRSox Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 I live in LA, and haven't heard anything out here about this rumor. I doubt it will happen, because of the money, but this would be a GREAT trade for the Sox. That's a lot of value for Crede, who doesn't really have a lot of value, but this is dependent on too many things to happen. You never know, though... DePodesta is blowing up the Dodgers, and Kenny may be in position to swing a great deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 QUOTE(SABRSox @ Jan 31, 2005 -> 07:10 AM) I live in LA, and haven't heard anything out here about this rumor. I doubt it will happen, because of the money, but this would be a GREAT trade for the Sox. That's a lot of value for Crede, who doesn't really have a lot of value, but this is dependent on too many things to happen. You never know, though... DePodesta is blowing up the Dodgers, and Kenny may be in position to swing a great deal. not happening. oh, and i live in LA as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 About Nakamura, if the Sox did indeed bid to negotiate with him (and that's if, which is very unlikely), here's how much he'll settle to play for; One such report said that in order to fulfill his dream of playing in the major leagues, Nakamura would be willing to play for about $500,000 annually -- a 90 percent cut from his 2004 salary with the Kintetsu Buffaloes, roughly $5 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quade36 Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 I agree with an earlier post in that they aren't going to pay Jose Valentin 3.5 mil to sit on the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Maybe KW wants Jose V back I would friggin :puke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 QUOTE(EvilJester99 @ Feb 1, 2005 -> 12:43 AM) Maybe KW wants Jose V back I would friggin :puke His sub .300 OBP would fit perfectly into our lineup ya know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 This trade only makes sense with more pcs. Weaver + Nakamuru + cash for Crede + Contreras. The cash is equal to what Nakamuru would cost the Sox. I can see where this rumor originated. The LA Times mentioned the Sox as one of the teams bidding for Nakamuru. He's projected to be no better than an average everyday player. He's expected to sign a minor league deal & then have to earn a spot on the roster. Money wise it would make sense for the Sox. They get out from Contreras 06 cost, deal away another BorASS client, & pick up Weaver & cash for about the same cost as Contra. Odd as this sounds Weaver has more experience than the mid-30 Contra. The Sox would not make this deal unless they thought Naku or someone else was ready to come in & play 3B w/out weaking the middle IF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winnin Ugly Posted January 31, 2005 Author Share Posted January 31, 2005 LA daily news mentions that the Whitesox are very intersted in the japanese 3B. Maybe they are getting scouting reports from Iguchi and Shingo that Nakumara is a very good player... The article also mentions that Minnesota are also intersted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 The LA Times is reporting that the LAD did indeed win the bid process. Naki will most likely be offered a ml contract. If he doesn't make the LAD cut then he would still have the opp to go back to Japan. This rumor will likely remain on hold until after ST. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHITESOXRANDY Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 NOT GONNA HAPPEN. The Sox are high on Crede - and with good reason. They aren't trading for another starting pitcher - and definitely not Weaver if they do. If a starting pitcher goes down during the season, they could always trade Crede then. I doubt they are going to take a chance on the Jap. 3rd baseman - they have not even seen Iguchi play yet and don't know for sure if he'll pan out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 Is Nakamura a LH bat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 QUOTE(silver and black @ Jan 30, 2005 -> 01:48 PM) I would rather have JC as starter i'd rather have weaver's little brother Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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