southsider2k5 Posted January 5, 2012 Author Share Posted January 5, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 5, 2012 -> 07:45 AM) Zambrano's a veteran. He knows how to get himself prepared and how to take care of himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 QUOTE (Brian @ Jan 4, 2012 -> 05:41 PM) Zambrano prediction in Miami. 17-8, 3.80 Depends which Z shows up. After his "leave of absence" in 2010, he was unhittable for two months. But during 2011, he was just bad all year until he took the rest of the season off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Whats Cowleys take on this? I'm guessing a whole lot different than had KW been the one to acquire bim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 5, 2012 Author Share Posted January 5, 2012 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 5, 2012 -> 08:45 AM) Whats Cowleys take on this? I'm guessing a whole lot different than had KW been the one to acquire bim. Not a word so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 This issue with Z is that his stuff has dropped off. A very good move by the Marlins low risk/ high reward. He could be an ace but all they him to be is a 4 or 5. The cubs could be epically bad this year. It shows what a loser Dempster is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 5, 2012 -> 08:45 AM) Whats Cowleys take on this? I'm guessing a whole lot different than had KW been the one to acquire bim. On the Score he was proclaiming it a Win Win for both teams.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOXOBAMA Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Johnson, Buehrle, Zambrano, Nolasco, Sanchez...that should be good enough for a solid 3rd place finish. If the Nats sign Prince, the Marlins will finished in 4th place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Jan 5, 2012 -> 10:24 AM) On the Score he was proclaiming it a Win Win for both teams.... I find paying someone $15 million to not pitch for you to not be a "win" for the Cubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 5, 2012 Author Share Posted January 5, 2012 QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Jan 5, 2012 -> 10:24 AM) On the Score he was proclaiming it a Win Win for both teams.... Of course he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 5, 2012 Author Share Posted January 5, 2012 ESPNChiCubs Bruce Levine Zambrano gets back 2.4 million from the 30 days he was disqualified by the cubs. Waived 2013 option of 19 mil if in top 4 cy vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 5, 2012 Author Share Posted January 5, 2012 Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal Zambrano deal official. He waived no-trade and $19.25M opt for '13 that would have kicked in if he finished in top 4 of Cy vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Marlins are trying to win; Sox are .... Bring back the good ol days, baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jan 5, 2012 -> 02:09 PM) Marlins are trying to win; Sox are .... Bring back the good ol days, baby. The least surprising post in this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 5, 2012 Author Share Posted January 5, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jan 5, 2012 -> 02:09 PM) Marlins are trying to win; Sox are .... Bring back the good ol days, baby. The Marlins will have a fire sale by the end of the 2014 calendar year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Jan 5, 2012 -> 10:24 AM) On the Score he was proclaiming it a Win Win for both teams.... Considering the money is pretty much a wash, what the Marlins would have had to pay their guy they will pay Zambrano, I'm very sorry to have to admit this, but I actually agree with him. It could blow up in their faces, but its worth a shot for the Marlins and Zambrano had to go, and no one was going to take his contract so the Cubs got something that has a slight chance of panning out. I'm no fan of KW, but it is a given had KW made the same deal and got Zambrano, Cowley would have written 3 or 4 columns ripping him for it. Edited January 6, 2012 by Dick Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunofgold Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 (edited) It is a win-win-win. Win for Cubs, Win for Marlins, Win for Zambrano. However it could turn into a win-lose-lose. If Zambrano messes it up and causes trouble as a Marlin. Cubs got rid of guy that they wanted to get rid of. He wasn't going to pitch well and be trouble free for them. But Cubs didn't save that much cash. Bargain for Marlins. No commitment past this year. Edited January 6, 2012 by sunofgold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 QUOTE (sunofgold @ Jan 5, 2012 -> 07:53 PM) It is a win-win-win. Win for Cubs, Win for Marlins, Win for Zambrano. However it could turn into a win-lose-lose. If Zambrano messes it up and causes trouble as a Marlin. Cubs got rid of guy that they wanted to get rid of. He wasn't going to pitch well and be trouble free for them. But Cubs didn't save that much cash. Bargain for Marlins. No commitment past this year. Are you saying Zambrano wins in either case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Jan 5, 2012 -> 08:57 PM) Are you saying Zambrano wins in either case? $17 million and no suspension and no legal challenges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Jan 5, 2012 -> 07:57 PM) Are you saying Zambrano wins in either case? Well it's pretty obvious that's the case, he's earning $18 mill no matter who he's playing for and just got $3.2 mill back from the Cubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Just making sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Being reported on the Score and WBBM that Starlin Castro has been accused of sexually assaulting a woman in her mid-20s. @WBBMNewsradio WBBM Newsradio Sources: Cubs’ Starlin Castro Accused Of Sexual Assault https://twitter.com/#!/WBBMNewsradio/st...264808709660672 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Is there another franchise in MLB where the GM is as powerless & non-existent as on the north side? Yesterday on CSN the reporter said "Theo Epstein traded Zambrano to Miami. We got him on the phone to ask him about his move." Isn't that the GM's job, not the presidents? I haven't read about a move yet this winter that has included Hoyer's name, every move has been made by Theo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 6, 2012 -> 08:20 AM) Is there another franchise in MLB where the GM is as powerless & non-existent as on the north side? Yesterday on CSN the reporter said "Theo Epstein traded Zambrano to Miami. We got him on the phone to ask him about his move." Isn't that the GM's job, not the presidents? I haven't read about a move yet this winter that has included Hoyer's name, every move has been made by Theo. Honestly, we know who is making the moves there. Theo was the hire, not Hoyer. Theo is going to be making all of the PR rounds for everything, he will be the face, the beneficiary of praise, and the fall guy if it fails. Hoyer will be his right hand man just like he was in Boston, and Theo will continue to be the genius rockstar It is unfair to say Hoyer is powerless as we dont know what role he plays in the heirarchy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jan 6, 2012 -> 06:45 AM) Being reported on the Score and WBBM that Starlin Castro has been accused of sexually assaulting a woman in her mid-20s. https://twitter.com/#!/WBBMNewsradio/st...264808709660672 Well damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 6, 2012 Author Share Posted January 6, 2012 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 6, 2012 -> 08:23 AM) Honestly, we know who is making the moves there. Theo was the hire, not Hoyer. Theo is going to be making all of the PR rounds for everything, he will be the face, the beneficiary of praise, and the fall guy if it fails. Hoyer will be his right hand man just like he was in Boston, and Theo will continue to be the genius rockstar It is unfair to say Hoyer is powerless as we dont know what role he plays in the heirarchy. Hoyer sounds a lot like Hahn. He does the leg work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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