November 6, 201411 yr http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/rockies...lowitzki-110514 Here we go. Rockies are listening.
November 6, 201411 yr Dick is right. I know this was discussed a month or two ago but CarGo comes with injury history concerns, questionable splits away from Coors Field and a huge salary. 16M in 2015 17M in 2016 20M in 2017 Anyone willing to take on that salary needs their head examined and subjected to random drug testing, or at least share with the rest of us.
November 6, 201411 yr If the price is reasonable I'm all for it, he fits everything that Hahn has been speaking of lately. Bad Contract, Young(er), Left handed, Power. With the QO cuddyer would be foolish not to accept so that just gives them even more of a log jam in the outfield. Micah, Erik, Thompson & Beck for CarGO his whole contract(54M) & Rex Brothers
November 6, 201411 yr QUOTE (beautox @ Nov 5, 2014 -> 06:39 PM) If the price is reasonable I'm all for it, he fits everything that Hahn has been speaking of lately. Bad Contract, Young(er), Left handed, Power. With the QO cuddyer would be foolish not to accept so that just gives them even more of a log jam in the outfield. Micah, Erik, Thompson & Beck for CarGO his whole contract(54M) & Rex Brothers Thats a bad deal
November 6, 201411 yr Rasmus' career stats, and CarGo's career numbers away from Coors are almost identical.
November 6, 201411 yr Problem with CarGo is that the Rox are not going to be able to move him. If they trade one of their stars for a package like beau proposed, it looks really bad for them. That is basically scraps. But no team is going to flush 53 million on a guy like CarGo AND give up premium talent without a guarantee he returns to form next year. Basically, its a stalemate. He won't be moved this offseason, i'd "put my house on it".
November 6, 201411 yr QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 6, 2014 -> 12:34 AM) At Coors: .329/.387/.601/.988 Away from Coors:.258/.314/.437/.750 De Aza's career: .268/.330/.403/.733 ohhh I like the way you slid DeAza in. nice.
November 6, 201411 yr QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Nov 5, 2014 -> 06:31 PM) Dick is right. I know this was discussed a month or two ago but CarGo comes with injury history concerns, questionable splits away from Coors Field and a huge salary. 16M in 2015 17M in 2016 20M in 2017 Anyone willing to take on that salary needs their head examined and subjected to random drug testing, or at least share with the rest of us. I'll take on the salary. Erik Johnson for Cargo. Boom.
November 6, 201411 yr QUOTE (beautox @ Nov 6, 2014 -> 12:39 AM) If the price is reasonable I'm all for it, he fits everything that Hahn has been speaking of lately. Bad Contract, Young(er), Left handed, Power. With the QO cuddyer would be foolish not to accept so that just gives them even more of a log jam in the outfield. Micah, Erik, Thompson & Beck for CarGO his whole contract(54M) & Rex Brothers only if they sweeten the deal with a prospect and ask for E. Johnson in rtn. on a side note. does anyone else think this might have been a result of Cuddyer accepting the QO ???? like the domino effect,
November 6, 201411 yr QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 5, 2014 -> 07:11 PM) only if they sweeten the deal with a prospect and ask for E. Johnson in rtn. on a side note. does anyone else think this might have been a result of Cuddyer accepting the QO ???? like the domino effect, I would guess the dominoes fell the other way around
November 6, 201411 yr QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Nov 6, 2014 -> 01:14 AM) I would guess the dominoes fell the other way around damn and I missed it.
November 6, 201411 yr After the horrible mega deals like A Rod and Fielder, CarGo might have one of worst values in baseball. He can GTFO
November 6, 201411 yr Some team will probably give the Rox a couple MLB caliber players for CarGo once he proves he's healthy. Hopefully it isn't the Sox.
November 6, 201411 yr I want nothing of his arrogance on our team. If he proves to be another AJ type case where only the opposition dislikes him due to his fire then so be it. The gamble is too great for me to endorse.
November 6, 201411 yr QUOTE (hi8is @ Nov 6, 2014 -> 12:26 AM) I want nothing of his arrogance on our team. If he proves to be another AJ type case where only the opposition dislikes him due to his fire then so be it. The gamble is too great for me to endorse. You're maybe thinking Carlos Gomez?
November 6, 201411 yr I'd take him as a salary dump, like a waiver claim type this. Throw them Joey DeMichele or something. But I wouldn't trade any of our top 10 prospects for him unless they are eating some money.
November 6, 201411 yr When Cargo signed that huge contract, he was coming off a really good year and he was still young. A five tool guy if there ever was one. His agent was Scott Boras, but Cargo pretty much negotiated that contract on his own. 'Negotiate' might be an exaggeration, because I think it was simply offered to him by the Rockies (GM was Dan O'Dowd), and Cargo took it. Boros argued against it, wanting to take him to free agency. It came on the heels of the Tulo signing, IIRC. The rest is history.
November 6, 201411 yr QUOTE (oldsox @ Nov 6, 2014 -> 07:03 AM) When Cargo signed that huge contract, he was coming off a really good year and he was still young. A five tool guy if there ever was one. His agent was Scott Boras, but Cargo pretty much negotiated that contract on his own. 'Negotiate' might be an exaggeration, because I think it was simply offered to him by the Rockies (GM was Dan O'Dowd), and Cargo took it. Boros argued against it, wanting to take him to free agency. It came on the heels of the Tulo signing, IIRC. The rest is history. The only history that matters is his injury history, which shows that Cargo probably cant carry his own jock without breaking his wrist
November 6, 201411 yr QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 6, 2014 -> 08:01 AM) The only history that matters is his injury history, which shows that Cargo probably cant carry his own jock without breaking his wrist Good one! With CarGo's money, he probably hired a jock manager to handle a of CarGo's jock affairs.
November 6, 201411 yr What is the annual salary of a jock manager? Also, I would not like him on team because he get's hurt all the time.
November 6, 201411 yr QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Nov 6, 2014 -> 08:26 AM) Good one! With CarGo's money, he probably hired a jock manager to handle a of CarGo's jock affairs. Well yea, his name is Scott Boras. He has a spreadsheet of the jocks achievements and accomplishments, complete with bar graphs and pie charts, as well as all of the related sabermetric stats.
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