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Carlos Gonzalez

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They will want a CarGo in his prime return.

He is hurt all the time pass.

I'm really against moving anything of value for CarGo.

Dick is right.

 

I know this was discussed a month or two ago but CarGo comes with injury history concerns, questionable splits away from Coors Field and a huge salary.

 

16M in 2015

 

17M in 2016

 

20M in 2017

 

Anyone willing to take on that salary needs their head examined and subjected to random drug testing, or at least share with the rest of us.

 

 

If the price is reasonable I'm all for it, he fits everything that Hahn has been speaking of lately. Bad Contract, Young(er), Left handed, Power. With the QO cuddyer would be foolish not to accept so that just gives them even more of a log jam in the outfield.

 

Micah, Erik, Thompson & Beck for CarGO his whole contract(54M) & Rex Brothers

QUOTE (beautox @ Nov 5, 2014 -> 06:39 PM)
If the price is reasonable I'm all for it, he fits everything that Hahn has been speaking of lately. Bad Contract, Young(er), Left handed, Power. With the QO cuddyer would be foolish not to accept so that just gives them even more of a log jam in the outfield.

 

Micah, Erik, Thompson & Beck for CarGO his whole contract(54M) & Rex Brothers

 

 

 

Thats a bad deal

 

Rasmus' career stats, and CarGo's career numbers away from Coors are almost identical.

Problem with CarGo is that the Rox are not going to be able to move him. If they trade one of their stars for a package like beau proposed, it looks really bad for them. That is basically scraps.

 

But no team is going to flush 53 million on a guy like CarGo AND give up premium talent without a guarantee he returns to form next year.

 

Basically, its a stalemate. He won't be moved this offseason, i'd "put my house on it".

QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 6, 2014 -> 12:34 AM)
At Coors: .329/.387/.601/.988

Away from Coors:.258/.314/.437/.750

 

De Aza's career: .268/.330/.403/.733

 

ohhh I like the way you slid DeAza in. nice.

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Nov 5, 2014 -> 06:31 PM)
Dick is right.

 

I know this was discussed a month or two ago but CarGo comes with injury history concerns, questionable splits away from Coors Field and a huge salary.

 

16M in 2015

 

17M in 2016

 

20M in 2017

 

Anyone willing to take on that salary needs their head examined and subjected to random drug testing, or at least share with the rest of us.

I'll take on the salary. Erik Johnson for Cargo. Boom.

QUOTE (beautox @ Nov 6, 2014 -> 12:39 AM)
If the price is reasonable I'm all for it, he fits everything that Hahn has been speaking of lately. Bad Contract, Young(er), Left handed, Power. With the QO cuddyer would be foolish not to accept so that just gives them even more of a log jam in the outfield.

 

Micah, Erik, Thompson & Beck for CarGO his whole contract(54M) & Rex Brothers

 

only if they sweeten the deal with a prospect and ask for E. Johnson in rtn.

 

on a side note. does anyone else think this might have been a result of

Cuddyer accepting the QO ???? like the domino effect,

QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 5, 2014 -> 07:11 PM)
only if they sweeten the deal with a prospect and ask for E. Johnson in rtn.

 

on a side note. does anyone else think this might have been a result of

Cuddyer accepting the QO ???? like the domino effect,

I would guess the dominoes fell the other way around

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Nov 6, 2014 -> 01:14 AM)
I would guess the dominoes fell the other way around

 

damn and I missed it. :crying

After the horrible mega deals like A Rod and Fielder, CarGo might have one of worst values in baseball. He can GTFO

Danks and Viciedo for Cargo straight up....if not they can keep paying him.

Some team will probably give the Rox a couple MLB caliber players for CarGo once he proves he's healthy.

 

Hopefully it isn't the Sox.

I want nothing of his arrogance on our team. If he proves to be another AJ type case where only the opposition dislikes him due to his fire then so be it. The gamble is too great for me to endorse.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Nov 6, 2014 -> 12:26 AM)
I want nothing of his arrogance on our team. If he proves to be another AJ type case where only the opposition dislikes him due to his fire then so be it. The gamble is too great for me to endorse.

 

You're maybe thinking Carlos Gomez?

I'd take him as a salary dump, like a waiver claim type this. Throw them Joey DeMichele or something. But I wouldn't trade any of our top 10 prospects for him unless they are eating some money.

When Cargo signed that huge contract, he was coming off a really good year and he was still young. A five tool guy if there ever was one. His agent was Scott Boras, but Cargo pretty much negotiated that contract on his own. 'Negotiate' might be an exaggeration, because I think it was simply offered to him by the Rockies (GM was Dan O'Dowd), and Cargo took it. Boros argued against it, wanting to take him to free agency. It came on the heels of the Tulo signing, IIRC. The rest is history.

 

 

QUOTE (oldsox @ Nov 6, 2014 -> 07:03 AM)
When Cargo signed that huge contract, he was coming off a really good year and he was still young. A five tool guy if there ever was one. His agent was Scott Boras, but Cargo pretty much negotiated that contract on his own. 'Negotiate' might be an exaggeration, because I think it was simply offered to him by the Rockies (GM was Dan O'Dowd), and Cargo took it. Boros argued against it, wanting to take him to free agency. It came on the heels of the Tulo signing, IIRC. The rest is history.

 

The only history that matters is his injury history, which shows that Cargo probably cant carry his own jock without breaking his wrist

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 6, 2014 -> 08:01 AM)
The only history that matters is his injury history, which shows that Cargo probably cant carry his own jock without breaking his wrist

:lol: Good one!

 

With CarGo's money, he probably hired a jock manager to handle a of CarGo's jock affairs.

What is the annual salary of a jock manager?

 

 

Also, I would not like him on team because he get's hurt all the time.

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Nov 6, 2014 -> 08:26 AM)
:lol: Good one!

 

With CarGo's money, he probably hired a jock manager to handle a of CarGo's jock affairs.

 

Well yea, his name is Scott Boras. He has a spreadsheet of the jocks achievements and accomplishments, complete with bar graphs and pie charts, as well as all of the related sabermetric stats.

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