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2015 Cubs Catch-All thread

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Are you guys talking about service time so they can have more control of him?

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QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 02:19 PM)
Are you guys talking about service time so they can have more control of him?

He's in the same boat Rodon is in. Send him down for 2 weeks, you get him for 7 seasons.

 

I will agree with Boras that if the Cubs are trying to win, baseball will be broken if they keep him in Des Moines until he won't be a Super 2.

 

Boras exploits every loophole he can. He should be very understanding the other side does as well. If he ran a team, he would do the same thing.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 01:42 PM)
You don't want that loophole? Great. What are the players willing to give up in negotiation in exchange for closing it?

 

I think something of this vein is exactly how the international draft happens, and the money pipeline to Latin America gets closed.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 03:36 PM)
He's in the same boat Rodon is in. Send him down for 2 weeks, you get him for 7 seasons.

 

I will agree with Boras that if the Cubs are trying to win, baseball will be broken if they keep him in Des Moines until he won't be a Super 2.

 

Boras exploits every loophole he can. He should be very understanding the other side does as well. If he ran a team, he would do the same thing.

Boras understands it so well he understands it better than you. He understands that b***ing publicly gets attention and helps make that change a priority for the union in the future. He will then understand that the next loophole available will be the loophole MLB teams will exploit. He will then understand that he needs to publicly b**** about that loophole in order to get it closed.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 02:36 PM)
He's in the same boat Rodon is in. Send him down for 2 weeks, you get him for 7 seasons.

 

I will agree with Boras that if the Cubs are trying to win, baseball will be broken if they keep him in Des Moines until he won't be a Super 2.

 

Boras exploits every loophole he can. He should be very understanding the other side does as well. If he ran a team, he would do the same thing.

 

Except Bryant spent all of last season in the minors Rodon has only had a cup of coffee in the minors.

 

 

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 04:55 PM)
Except Bryant spent all of last season in the minors Rodon has only had a cup of coffee in the minors.

The real hypothetical then is what we'd do if Rodon was in the same situation next year.

 

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 04:25 PM)
The real hypothetical then is what we'd do if Rodon was in the same situation next year.

 

I think there was a verbal agreement that he would be in the majors by at least the end of this season and into next when they signed him. At least that is the speculation among the media.

I dont understand why the Cubs are taking Baez with them. I think he has a fairly good chance of leading baseball in strikeouts. His approach is just awful.

After tonight's start, is Boras going to start whining about Rodon not starting the year with the Sox either? Him and Bryant are basically in the exact same situation, except the media only slurps one of them so far.

 

 

Differences:

 

1) All the attendant media hype surrounding one year of eye-popping numbers in the minors

 

2) 107 years and counting without a World Series title

 

3) Gary Scott/Kevin Orie/Bobby Hill/Brooks Kieschnick/Hee Sop Choi, etc. Long string of busts in the infield for the Cubs. Shawon Dunston never even quite lived up to the hype back in the mid 80's.

 

4) Kyle Schwarber=Babe Ruth (enough said)

 

 

I need Bryant to face Sale and Rodon.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Mar 26, 2015 -> 12:23 AM)
I need Bryant to face Sale and Rodon.

 

Samardzija taking him down a peg or two would be poetic justice as well.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Mar 26, 2015 -> 12:05 AM)
After tonight's start, is Boras going to start whining about Rodon not starting the year with the Sox either? Him and Bryant are basically in the exact same situation, except the media only slurps one of them so far.

 

They aren't even close to the same situation.

 

Rodon has all of 24 minor league innings, 12 at AAA. He has pitched fine, but it's not like he has been unhittable every outing. Saying that he needs more seasoning in the minors is completely defensible, especially as a pitcher. You also have to worry about his work load given his lower inning totals in the past.

 

Bryant has a full season in the minors plus a month or two. Since day one he has been the best minor leaguer in the country and now leads all of baseball in homers during spring training.

 

There's a justified reason why one is being talked about way more than the other.

 

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Mar 26, 2015 -> 03:19 AM)
Samardzija taking him down a peg or two would be poetic justice as well.

 

Typo, I meant Baez.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Mar 26, 2015 -> 12:15 AM)
Differences:

 

1) All the attendant media hype surrounding one year of eye-popping numbers in the minors

 

2) 107 years and counting without a World Series title

 

3) Gary Scott/Kevin Orie/Bobby Hill/Brooks Kieschnick/Hee Sop Choi, etc. Long string of busts in the infield for the Cubs. Shawon Dunston never even quite lived up to the hype back in the mid 80's.

 

4) Kyle Schwarber=Babe Ruth (enough said)

 

#caulfielded

The White Sox bringing Rodon north would cause a new headache to the situation though.

One of the rooftop owners was just indicted for mail fraud for under-reporting revenues and attendance to the tune of 600K. whoops

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Rob Biertempfel ‏@BiertempfelTrib 3h3 hours ago Florida, USA

 

Manfred: "I don't think #Cubs' decision with respect to what's going to happen with Kris Bryant is really any of Mr. Boras' business."

 

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 27, 2015 -> 02:55 PM)
Rob Biertempfel ‏@BiertempfelTrib 3h3 hours ago Florida, USA

 

Manfred: "I don't think #Cubs' decision with respect to what's going to happen with Kris Bryant is really any of Mr. Boras' business."

 

What? It has everything to do with Boras and how soon the extra zeros on his commission check increase.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Mar 27, 2015 -> 12:59 PM)
What? It has everything to do with Boras and how soon the extra zeros on his commission check increase.

I think the point is it's still not Boras' decision to make.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Mar 27, 2015 -> 08:42 PM)
http://www.csnchicago.com/cubs/%E2%80%98wh...&ocid=yahoo

 

Epstein tired of all the distractions, sticks to PR points in providing 4-5 reasons Bryant shouldn't be on OD roster.

Maybe Boras can engineer a swap for Rodon?

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