BigHurt3515 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 QUOTE (shipps @ Nov 25, 2015 -> 12:06 PM) Ah I see, typo. Ninnymuggins. Is that an Elf reference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 QUOTE (SCCWS @ Nov 25, 2015 -> 01:29 PM) Hahn saved $300,000 which he can use to ............................................ Get a better haircut?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 This guy is one foul tip away from being out of baseball forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Nov 25, 2015 -> 12:30 PM) Is that an Elf reference? Yes sir, that it is. Tis the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 QUOTE (shipps @ Nov 25, 2015 -> 12:36 PM) Yes sir, that it is. Tis the season. It's not even Thanksgiving!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Anyone want to take a stab at the average salary for a backup catcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Nov 25, 2015 -> 12:42 PM) Anyone want to take a stab at the average salary for a backup catcher. Don't have any idea, but with Flowers/Avila, the Sox aren't spending too much on that position overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 25, 2015 -> 09:56 AM) Catchers almost as a rule can't hit. It's better the Sox spend no trade chips on a mediocre guy. This guy is a lot like Geo except left handed. No average, decent OBP, power, decent defensively. He has been the starting catcher on many playoff teams and he is still in his 20's, and signed for less than what Geo received. Exactly. And I'd think in a platoon situation, the odds of him staying healthy / being more productive would be greater. And unlike Geo, this is a platoon that actually makes sense (since you can use Flowers and Avilla to their strength's) and both are good defensive players. This was a really good cheap move and in my opinion, I am content with catcher. Allows Rick and company to focus on more glaring issues. Spending significant resources on catcher, when almost all of them suck, just doesn't make a ton of sense right now (unless you have a rare super elite guy). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 A generally reasonable move regardless of what their other plans are for this year. No one was remotely pushing that position, they needed big league depth, Flowers alone can't be counted on as holding that position next year, if either of them outperform they become tradeable assets at the deadline, and if they spend a ton of money elsewhere they can at least say "we're tolerable at catcher next year and probably about where we were in 2015". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 This is one of those lightning in the bottle hopefuls this organization is good for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDWhiteSoxFan Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 For anyone upset about this it's 2.5 on a 1 year deal to platoon with Flowers... Sure Derek Norris would be nice (not sure how he is defensively) but at what cost. You're giving up assets for him. We aren't in a position for that IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 QUOTE (MDWhiteSoxFan @ Nov 25, 2015 -> 01:37 PM) For anyone upset about this it's 2.5 on a 1 year deal to platoon with Flowers... Sure Derek Norris would be nice (not sure how he is defensively) but at what cost. You're giving up assets for him. We aren't in a position for that IMO Yep and the SOX still have their resources (prospects/money) to utilize towards getting a 3B and hopefully SS. 2.5M is a small price to pay for a catcher that gets on base, has some pop and throws out base runners pretty well. This is a very reasonable move for the Sox and a smart move at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Nov 25, 2015 -> 01:55 PM) Yep and the SOX still have their resources (prospects/money) to utilize towards getting a 3B and hopefully SS. 2.5M is a small price to pay for a catcher that gets on base, has some pop and throws out base runners pretty well. This is a very reasonable move for the Sox and a smart move at that. They aren't in a position to deal from the farm yet in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 25, 2015 -> 06:45 PM) Don't have any idea, but with Flowers/Avila, the Sox aren't spending too much on that position overall. and mostly important, all things being equal, they did not trade any prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Nov 25, 2015 -> 03:51 PM) They aren't in a position to deal from the farm yet in my opinion. They have to if they're not going to sign an OF bat, or deal Q. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Nov 25, 2015 -> 10:09 PM) They have to if they're not going to sign an OF bat, or deal Q. i really don't think so, if anything, a 3b and then some kind of low level pitcher, a SP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Nov 25, 2015 -> 02:51 PM) They aren't in a position to deal from the farm yet in my opinion. And yet, they already have with the Almonte/Kahnle trade. I'm not against trading young low level pitching for young hitters or to use the young pitching as part of a bigger package for MLB ready talent/players. If the Sox plan on keeping Sale, Q and Rodon then they have no choice but to utilize the young pitching they have in a trade. Hahn has already said they could do just that, although I think he was speaking on pitching youth for hitting youth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Nov 25, 2015 -> 10:12 PM) And yet, they already have with the Almonte/Kahnle trade. I'm not against trading young low level pitching for young hitters or to use the young pitching as part of a bigger package for MLB ready talent/players. If the Sox plan on keeping Sale, Q and Rodon then they have no choice but to utilize the young pitching they have in a trade. Hahn has already said they could do just that, although I think he was speaking on pitching youth for hitting youth. thanks for posting this, i missed something, so i will revise my other other post, now they need to go out and sign a 3b.... that is all i see them doing, nothing big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaySox Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Can't see why some are so upset over this. Pretty solid/decent move in my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 25, 2015 -> 03:15 PM) thanks for posting this, i missed something, so i will revise my other other post, now they need to go out and sign a 3b.... that is all i see them doing, nothing big. Off the top of my head I think Hwang and Freese make the most sense for a 3B signing. I'd prefer something else but I don't know what else is available for 3BB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Flowers starting again whoopee doo.............Avila signing is fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Nov 25, 2015 -> 09:26 PM) Off the top of my head I think Hwang and Freese make the most sense for a 3B signing. I'd prefer something else but I don't know what else is available for 3BB. hwang, i have some concerns and that is why i really don't want to give up too much money on a bid, freese seems to be the best options for what i perceives as the sox limitations. even thou my opinions are way different than most of these posters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulokis Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 QUOTE (Soxfest @ Nov 25, 2015 -> 03:36 PM) Flowers starting again whoopee doo.............Avila signing is fine. Im fine with platooning them and Avila gets to play against R hand SP and play TFlo against lefties/when Sale pitches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Not sure Ventura will use him effectively, but not a horrible signing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 QUOTE (bulokis @ Nov 25, 2015 -> 03:53 PM) Im fine with platooning them and Avila gets to play against R hand SP and play TFlo against lefties/when Sale pitches. Ventura will play Flowers way more not really a real platoon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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