Jose Abreu Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Chuck Garfien @ChuckGarfien 11m11 minutes ago White Sox looking at multiple options at 3B. Hahn on Lawrie rumors: Why certain notions gain steam and others don’t I can't explain." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Chuck Garfien @ChuckGarfien 6m6 minutes ago Hahn on Reinsdorf factor: Jerry tends to be the most aggressive guy in the room..and many times he advocates for the stretch (financially) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 05:18 PM) Chuck Garfien @ChuckGarfien 6m6 minutes ago Hahn on Reinsdorf factor: Jerry tends to be the most aggressive guy in the room..and many times he advocates for the stretch (financially) What the hell else would you say about your boss? LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Chuck Garfien @ChuckGarfien 20s21 seconds ago Hahn to Sox fans: "I’m as impatient as any @Whatever may be on Twitter so I get it, but we're not going to do anything to calm the masses." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Hahn: "Jerry (Reinsdorf) tends to be the most aggressive guy in the room when it comes to putting us in position to win and win quickly." https://twitter.com/scottmerkin/status/674735153541943296 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 puts us in the best position to win? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Daryl Van Schouwen @CST_soxvan 1m1 minute ago Hahn said White Sox are not done looking to improve offense. Yes! Keep doing it! Take my money! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 09:28 PM) Daryl Van Schouwen @CST_soxvan 1m1 minute ago Hahn said White Sox are not done looking to improve offense. Yes! Keep doing it! Take my money! They have question marks all over the place from an offensive standpoint, and it appears limited money to spend in free agency. They don't seem interested in moving any starting pitching and don't have much minor league talent to trade. However, from both a 'found' money standpoint and moving young talent, they can probably surprise us and make a significant trade or make move on a free agent if they really wanted a specific talent, even if it impacts their minor league system, etc. It will be interesting to see what they are able to do with the limitations that appear to be in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 12:46 AM) Hahn: "Jerry (Reinsdorf) tends to be the most aggressive guy in the room when it comes to putting us in position to win and win quickly." https://twitter.com/scottmerkin/status/674735153541943296 and how many world series rings has that gotten this team???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconOnAStick Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 and how many world series rings has that gotten this team???? One. I still can't believe it 10 years later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS 1h1 hour ago todd frazier @FlavaFraz21 talks heating up. chisox, Indians interested (& others listed in here) http://cbsprt.co/1QhhZy6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 09:31 AM) Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS 1h1 hour ago todd frazier @FlavaFraz21 talks heating up. chisox, Indians interested (& others listed in here) http://cbsprt.co/1QhhZy6 I would not be disappointed if nothing came of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I'm interested in seeing the return though. Seriously, last year, everyone was just saying "pitching isn't that valuable, you can find pitching anywhere now"...well the results are in and that's not true. Certainly think he'll get a top 100 prospect and maybe 2, but not a haul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Don't be surprise if another trade is in the works for White Sox. https://twitter.com/SSS_joshnelson/status/677207504695242752 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 QUOTE (Swingandalongonetoleft @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 10:41 AM) I would not be disappointed if nothing came of this. Well are you surprised now lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Hahn says we're not satisfied yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Chris Cotillo @ChrisCotillo 59m59 minutes ago Source: Brad Penny gets $900K base salary if in majors with Blue Jays. Deal includes ML ST invite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 01:46 PM) Don't be surprise if another trade is in the works for White Sox. https://twitter.com/SSS_joshnelson/status/677207504695242752 Jean Segura is an interesting idea....from the comments. Josh Nelson also questioning whether Sox can play at big boys' table in terms of Cespedes, et al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 19, 2015 -> 05:36 PM) Jean Segura is an interesting idea....from the comments. Josh Nelson also questioning whether Sox can play at big boys' table in terms of Cespedes, et al. Doesn't hit much, but fangraphs has him as a good defender at SS. 3 years ago, he really hit well. Last year, he was hit by tragedy as he lost his infant son I believe. That probably took a tole on him. I wonder how much Segura would go for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Why would the Sox even consider Segura if Anderson is the future SS? Unless one of them is willing to make a position change, I don't see a deal for him happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 19, 2015 -> 05:54 PM) Why would the Sox even consider Segura if Anderson is the future SS? Unless one of them is willing to make a position change, I don't see a deal for him happening. Plus it isn't really an obvious upgrade over Saladino, some people just like other teams' garbage for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 If they're all in competing this year and the cost to acquire wasn't so great...he would provide more upside than Saladino. He also fits the current two year window or cycle idea...with Melky, Lawrie and Frazier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 (edited) The last 2 1/2 years, the guy barely has a .600 OPs. He is one of the worst hitters in baseball. No need for him unless you want him to be a back up/ PR. Just look at the second half of his breakout year 2013. A .583 OPS. 13 walks last year. If Alexei Ramirez's ABs pissed you off, this guy may send you to a hospital Edited December 20, 2015 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 19, 2015 -> 06:06 PM) Plus it isn't really an obvious upgrade over Saladino, some people just like other teams' garbage for some reason. Obviously you believe Saladino can put up a 4ish war at age 22/23. Segura is only 25, and plays at the very least above-average defense. I guess it depends on how much you want to believe the last two seasons (where 2015 he was clearly affected by the death of his son) are more indicative of his overall ability. If you throw out that season, you'd expect around a 2 war. Of course, he has been double that and half that but terribly inconsistent so hard to predict. Perfect change of scenery candidate. Juan Uribe was "garbage" to the Rockies before they dumped him for Aaron Miles, let's not forget. Both Segura and Uribe were Rookie of the Year type players whose careers nosedived for different reasons. He has also averaged about 30 stolen bases per season. Is that 2 WAR a reasonable expectation for Saladino...or is closer to 0.5-1 more likely? At the very least, he would be perfect insurance for both middle infield positions and allow Carlos Sanchez at his young age to continue to develop his hitting ability and power at Charlotte. Guess it depends on his salary, though...and trade cost. Otherwise we're left with Ian Desmond as the fallback to an outfielder, and losing a draft pick to boot. Edited December 20, 2015 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 19, 2015 -> 06:17 PM) Obviously you believe Saladino can put up a 4ish war at age 22/23. Segura is only 25, and plays at the very least above-average defense. I guess it depends on how much you want to believe the last two seasons (where 2015 he was clearly affected by the death of his son) are more indicative of his overall ability. If you throw out that season, you'd expect around a 2 war. Of course, he has been double that and half that but terribly inconsistent so hard to predict. Perfect change of scenery candidate. Juan Uribe was "garbage" to the Rockies before they dumped him for Aaron Miles, let's not forget. Both Segura and Uribe were Rookie of the Year type players whose careers nosedived for different reasons. Is that 2 WAR a reasonable expectation for Saladino...or is closer to 0.5-1 more likely? What a guy did 2 years ago is irrelevant. It is what he will do in 2016. He has been one of the worst hitters in the NL the Second half of 2013, and all of 2014, and 2015. If a White Sox did that and they said they were sticking with him, you would loyalty is hurting the team.. I don't think switching leagues is going to help him. Saladino has potential and a good glove. At worst, he can do what Segura has done the last 400 games on Milwaukees schedule.According to Bill James he also is the 4th fastest runner into 2nd base on SB attempts only slower than Noel, Hamilton, and Dyson. No reason to give up anything for another guy that can't hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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