I appreciate Danks for being a hard worker and for giving a s***, but if his ERA is over 5 in four more starts, it's probably that time. Just need a better option come mid May.

Edited April 17, 20169 yr by flavum

I'd give Danks two, maybe three more starts. If he's still brutal I know what I'd do...he gone! (but I seriously doubt the Sox would eat that kind of money)

 

The offense now is really starting to concern me. In six of the 11 games they've scored three runs or less.

 

Sounds a lot like last year doesn't it?

 

Mark

I appreciate Danks for being a hard worker and for giving a s***, but if his ERA is over 5 in four more starts, it's probably that time. Just need a better option come mid May.

 

This.

Just win the series, offense needs to eventually show up. If Danks is still struggling as others have suggested in a few weeks then pull the hook.

And then you had Putnam and Jennings and Duke struggling.

 

Duke could eventually become a big issue if he doesn't establish any respect for his fastball...he hasn't been particularly effective getting lefties out.

 

Offensively, we're still that one bat short...no surprises there. Hopefully Avila or Navarro can get into some type of offensive rhythm at some point. (Of course, Salty is tearing it up for the Tigers.)

 

 

With Danks, the most logical thing is replacing Jennings and trying to get his velocity to 92-93 and hope he can be somewhat more effective in that loogy role, and it wouldn't be totally surprising if he supplanted Duke IMO.

 

The Royals have Chris Young who is 0-3, we have Danks...it's a trade-off, but that's not good enough to overtake them because they have superior depth in that area. (Shout out to Dick Allen, Brandon Finnegan is coming around now.)

Edited April 17, 20169 yr by caulfield12

Sox scored 38 runs through 11 games in 2015.

 

Sox scored 37 runs through 11 games in 2016.

Edited April 17, 20169 yr by Knuckles

Jennings has pitched in 2 games this year with 4 IP and hasn't given up a ER, today included even if he wasn't ideal. He was on 8 days rest. He's not struggling. His last 37 innings pitched, he has an era of 1.22. His splits career wise aren't ideal, but whatever. He should not be cut. Duke should be on the chopping block, contract be damned.

Glad I didn't watch today. Danks is worthless. It's one game you lose no matter what.

Makes you wonder if they realize other teams don't have Cy Young contending 5th starters, but most of the punching bags were sent away. This one remained and they have 152 games to keep punching.

I love Danks but I'd rather have two righty starters to go with lefties Sale, Q and Rodon. Why are the Sox so crazy bout lefty starters? I think Danks could be a good reliever if he throws strikes. Worth a shot. Duke blows.

 

Danks is at 80 pitches. If he goes 8 IP with 4 ER, he kept the team in the game and gave them innings, it's not a terrible start for a 5th starter.

I still love Johnny Danks but he's really been our only bad starter so far.

I love Danks but I'd rather have two righty starters to go with lefties Sale, Q and Rodon. Why are the Sox so crazy bout lefty starters? I think Danks could be a good reliever if he throws strikes. Worth a shot. Duke blows.

 

 

I still love Johnny Danks but he's really been our only bad starter so far.

Because 3 of them are awesome and the 4th makes a lot of money.

We could all see this loss coming a mile away. Like others have said, win tomorrow and start another streak.

Danks had a couple of bad innings. Made a terrible pitch to Miller. He really has no room for mistakes given that he throws 87-88.

 

 

Just watched the game

 

You guys are giving Danks way too much flak. Yes he gave up 5 (1 should go to Petricka) but you aren't going to win if you can't score.

 

I don't have enough fingers to count the amount of first pitch swinging outs on 91mph fastballs down the middle we had. Most of our hitters were down 0-1, 0-2, and 1-2 ALL GAME.

 

Yes Danks sucks, but the approach from the offense was terrible tonight.

 

edit: Frazier needs to get going

Edited April 17, 20169 yr by reiks12

Jennings has pitched in 2 games this year with 4 IP and hasn't given up a ER, today included even if he wasn't ideal. He was on 8 days rest. He's not struggling. His last 37 innings pitched, he has an era of 1.22. His splits career wise aren't ideal, but whatever. He should not be cut. Duke should be on the chopping block, contract be damned.

 

 

Sometimes statistics for those "junk" innings can be fairly useless. The White Sox have had a string of guys over the last decade whose numbers were better than reality, such as DJ Carrasco.

 

I'd love to see numbers for high leverage situations, or the times he's been effective when we've had a 1-3 run lead from the 6th inning onwards.

 

It's pretty telling that with all those seemingly great numbers, there hasn't even been a whisper about Duke being replaced by Jennings (eventually). Obviously, Duke will keep that top lefty job for the next 4-6 weeks regardless (contracts baby!), but he needs to start showing some better results.

 

 

If Petricka and Putnam are going to pitch like this, they're dispensable. Petricka should be good for a clean inning of ground balls...he doesn't need to be walking guys.

 

Kahnle has been killed by walks his entire career...so far,he has 1 in 4 Charlotte appearances. Walks are the only thing that have held him back. Small sample size to be sure, but if that's cured, this team can use him.

If Petricka and Putnam are going to pitch like this, they're dispensable. Petricka should be good for a clean inning of ground balls...he doesn't need to be walking guys.

 

Kahnle has been killed by walks his entire career...so far,he has 1 in 4 Charlotte appearances. Walks are the only thing that have held him back. Small sample size to be sure, but if that's cured, this team can use him.

 

 

On the other hand, how many guys with "plus" arms like Cleto or MacDougal or Aardsma ever figured things out 100% and got their control issues dealt with...

 

Doesn't happen very often. Politte is one of the (temporary) examples. Obviously, Matt Thornton. But the "success" rate must be something like 1 in 50.

 

Statistically, we have the best bullpen in the AL. In reality, we have a near elite closer, a sketchy (also because of the lack of a big wipeout pitch) lefty set-up guy in Duke, an unproven (because of the injury/rehab aspect) 8th inning set up man in Nate Jones (maybe we will be able to check his name off as dependable if he's consistently holding leads in significant August/September games)...then a bunch of "serviceable" but not elite guys like Putnam, Petricka and Jennings who would get picked up instantly from the waiver wire but also wouldn't garner much of a trade return. In April, that list looks fine...but will it hold up?

Edited April 17, 20169 yr by caulfield12

I just hope the Sox are proactive in bringing in another legit middle of the order big bat. Take some pressure of the pitching staff. They can't expect the pitchers to keep shutting down the opponents every game.

Offense needs to get going. I can't watch more s***ty offense

One good thing: KC lost today so we are still tied for first

I just hope the Sox are proactive in bringing in another legit middle of the order big bat. Take some pressure of the pitching staff. They can't expect the pitchers to keep shutting down the opponents every game.

 

Bringing in "another legit middle of the order big bat" may mean Anderson and/or Fulmer is out the door.