FloydBannister1983 Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 QUOTE (hi8is @ Dec 10, 2017 -> 12:54 AM) I wonder when the national media is gonna realize that the Sox only have like 13 cents in payroll with arguably baseballs best young class. When they remember they exist and have even won a World Series in a convincing fashion in this millennium. Until then I would dampen my expectations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Bob NightengaleVerified account @BNightengale 20m20 minutes ago Stanton says he was impressed w #STLCards and #SFGiants but uninterested in going anywhere that wasn't among his top choices Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 QUOTE (hi8is @ Dec 9, 2017 -> 11:54 PM) I wonder when the national media is gonna realize that the Sox only have like 13 cents in payroll with arguably baseballs best young class. They realize, but then they remember that Jerry Reinsdorf is owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Bob NightengaleVerified account @BNightengale 42m42 minutes ago Stanton says he told Derek Jeter that he wanted to add pitching, and when Jeter said he wanted to subtract, he wanted out of Miami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 11, 2017 -> 03:56 PM) Bob NightengaleVerified account @BNightengale 42m42 minutes ago Stanton says he told Derek Jeter that he wanted to add pitching, and when Jeter said he wanted to subtract, he wanted out of Miami lol. You don't say... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 9, 2017 -> 01:51 PM) Baseball won't be like the NBA simply because of how random the playoffs are. In the NBA, the best teams almost always win their playoff series, which is how you get CLE vs GS 3 times in a row. In baseball, anyone can win a 7 game series, and that will mix up the finals and World Series winners. It also gives hope to lower level teams, just get in the dance and anything can happen. To add on to this...baseball won't be the NBA mainly because one player can't tilt a series like an NBA player can. Best player on the planet usually means you are getting pretty far in NBA (1 of 5); In baseball that dominance is muted by the fact that there are just more guys in the game and if said player is a pitcher...only 1 out of x games where you can even impact the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 QUOTE (Tony @ Dec 9, 2017 -> 01:56 PM) We’ve also seen time and time again franchises embrace complete organizations top to bottom (solid farm system, advanced scouting ect) and compete with larger market franchises. Sustained success is harder and made easy by money, but the NBA/MLB comparisons just aren’t really true, from a competitive standpoint. This is true as well. Lots of small-to-mid market NBA franchises who have had a ton of sustained success. Nearly impossible to have "sustained" success in the smaller markets in baseball (or with smaller payrolls). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 11, 2017 -> 03:21 PM) This is true as well. Lots of small-to-mid market NBA franchises who have had a ton of sustained success. Nearly impossible to have "sustained" success in the smaller markets in baseball (or with smaller payrolls). Baseball is becoming win during your 2-3 year window of opportunity, then rebuild because you won't be able to afford to keep your stars as they hit free agency if you are a medium or small market club. It is 100% about young, cheap cost controlled talent. For example the Astros are primed to be very good the next 2-3 years even if Keuchel leaves in free agency due to farm depth and having a ton of cost controlled talent on the roster. If they tweak the bullpen and trade for a quality starter watch out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Jeff PassanVerified account @JeffPassan 21m21 minutes ago The backstory of the Giancarlo Stanton trade is bonkers. Miami threatened that if he didn’t accept a trade to St. Louis or San Francisco, he would be a Marlin for life. He called their bluff. And because of it, he’s a New York Yankee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Bob NightengaleVerified account @BNightengale 52m52 minutes ago Stanton has no intention to opt out, agent Joel Wolfe says out of #Yankees deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 11, 2017 -> 03:48 PM) Bob NightengaleVerified account @BNightengale 52m52 minutes ago Stanton has no intention to opt out, agent Joel Wolfe says out of #Yankees deal What else is he supposed to say right now? "Yeah, I'm opting out after I smoke 60 home runs a year the next three seasons" Just to make sure to piss off the entire fanbase before he even gets there? I doubt he opts out, as he still has a full no trade clause right? He's set for life with that contract and will he really be paid more in three years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 If you are Baltimore or Tampa or Toronto, how do you realistically put together a team that can have sustained success with Boston and the Yankees being able to do what they do? You could get lucky and be good for a couple of years, and maybe make the playoffs, which they all have done, but perpetual rebuilding seems to be their fate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 06:05 PM) If you are Baltimore or Tampa or Toronto, how do you realistically put together a team that can have sustained success with Boston and the Yankees being able to do what they do? You could get lucky and be good for a couple of years, and maybe make the playoffs, which they all have done, but perpetual rebuilding seems to be their fate. Are the Sox in any different position DA? I understand dont play BOS/NYY as often but ownership will need to absolutely spend big bucks soon to be able to compete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 QUOTE (Knuckles @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 05:08 PM) Are the Sox in any different position DA? I understand dont play BOS/NYY as often but ownership will need to absolutely spend big bucks soon to be able to compete. They are very different. Competing with Cleveland , Minnesota, Detroit, and KC, especially with the passing of Mike Illitch, $200 million payrolls aren't going to happen with any of them, let alone 2. If the White Eox right the ship, they will have an advantage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 06:28 PM) They are very different. Competing with Cleveland , Minnesota, Detroit, and KC, especially with the passing of Mike Illitch, $200 million payrolls aren't going to happen with any of them, let alone 2. If the White Eox right the ship, they will have an advantage. Opening day 2017 payroll: 4 TIGERS $ 199,750,600 You are correct by a whopping $249,400. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 05:38 PM) Opening day 2017 payroll: You are correct by a whopping $249,400. I am correct, and with Mike Illitch dead, which you ignored, they won't be anywhere near it again any time soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Gary Sanchez is the best hitter on the Yankees. Am I crazy for thinking this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Crazy prolly wouldn’t be the word I use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 https://sports.yahoo.com/derek-jeter-met-ma...-040141274.html Jeter raked over the coals at meeting with season ticket holders...poor guy has already shed about 50% of his popularity in less than a calendar year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 MLB at fault here. One of the requisites for new ownership is liquidity after the purchase price. Obviously, this was overlooked for the Jeter Group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 QUOTE (oldsox @ Dec 20, 2017 -> 06:36 AM) MLB at fault here. One of the requisites for new ownership is liquidity after the purchase price. Obviously, this was overlooked for the Jeter Group. I think it's done by design. Do they really want someone to buy the Marlins that will be throwing money at players like the Dodgers, Yankees, Red Sox and Cubs do, and not care too much about the bottom line? They would make 24 or 25 teams look really bad. When Loria signed Stanton, he and his son in law were already bragging about the deal, and saying they would never pay it all out. Stanton would opt out, and give them the out. They knew then, the franchise with it's revenues couldn't compete and have his contract on the payroll. He was there as a prop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Still saying that Jeter got special treatment from MLB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 oh he absolutely did. One of the groups had a way better offer for the city of Miami but MLB clearly thought Jeter's ...star power could be a bigger asset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 John Perrotto @JPerrotto 40m40 minutes ago From @flasportsbuzz: #Marlins' other bidders had a different plan than Derek Jeter's http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article191481449.html …://http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/s...91481449.html … #MLB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 26, 2017 -> 01:42 PM) John Perrotto @JPerrotto 40m40 minutes ago From @flasportsbuzz: #Marlins' other bidders had a different plan than Derek Jeter's http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article191481449.html …://http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/s...91481449.html …://http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/s...91481449.html … #MLB That last paragraph is brutal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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