Balta1701 Posted December 28, 2005 Share Posted December 28, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Dec 28, 2005 -> 10:22 AM) I'm pretty sure you can trade a new FA signee before either May 1 or June 1 of the next season. Don't you mean "You can't"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmbjeff Posted December 28, 2005 Share Posted December 28, 2005 high 90's almost 100mil believe it or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxman352000 Posted December 28, 2005 Share Posted December 28, 2005 Wow a payroll in the high 90's I never thought I'd see the day. It probably won't last as someone is going to get traded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 28, 2005 Share Posted December 28, 2005 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 28, 2005 -> 01:28 PM) Don't you mean "You can't"? Â Yeah, can't bleh. Its probably known around here as the "Carl Everett" rule Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted December 28, 2005 Share Posted December 28, 2005 Mark must love this move, too. Now his best friend is signed longer than him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted December 28, 2005 Share Posted December 28, 2005 The Score just said the payroll is at $102 million right now....Who knows if that number is correct, but you'd have to assume that they, according to KW, would want that payroll in the mid-90's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted December 28, 2005 Share Posted December 28, 2005 QUOTE(maggsmaggs @ Dec 28, 2005 -> 12:31 PM) Mark must love this move, too. Now his best friend is signed longer than him. OK,not that I agree with this or actually think it is going to happen, but with KW you never know, does he completely blindside everyone and decide as a lefty he has zero chance to resign MB and he trades him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 28, 2005 Share Posted December 28, 2005 QUOTE(Felix @ Dec 28, 2005 -> 10:27 AM) I really didn't see this coming. This means that McCarthy is likely pitching out of the pen.. something I don't really want to see, especially because I don't think Garland will pitch as well as he did last year. Oh well, time will tell I guess. It is a bargin considering the current pitching market. Brandon McCarthy WILL be in the starting rotation next year. You may hear wierd reports about a hostage situation in spring training involving Ozzie or Cooper, but it will be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 28, 2005 Share Posted December 28, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 28, 2005 -> 12:26 PM) Yeah, you guys are right. Contract extensions are different than a FA signing. While this would make Garland more attractive to other teams, it also gives us no reason to trade him now. The Sox love bargains, and at $7 million next season, Garland is a bargain. The next 2 season, maybe not. It would surprise me if they traded him now, unless it was just a huge blockbuster. Next offseason, I wouldn't be surprised if he were moved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted December 28, 2005 Share Posted December 28, 2005 Kenny keeps upstaging the Cubs and I love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 28, 2005 Share Posted December 28, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan562004 @ Dec 28, 2005 -> 10:32 AM) OK,not that I agree with this or actually think it is going to happen, but with KW you never know, does he completely blindside everyone and decide as a lefty he has zero chance to resign MB and he trades him? If it brings us back Pujols, I'm game. Otherwise...well, I never thought KW could give me a reason to burn him in effigy... Â Otherwise, I think this may massively help us in resigning MB just because it keeps the staff together longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 28, 2005 Share Posted December 28, 2005 Contreras will almost definitely get traded now. As many on here know, I was saying all along he should be the one to get traded due to having the highest value at the time. Teams look at Contreras as a potential ace, where as Garland is more of a 2-3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 28, 2005 Share Posted December 28, 2005 The payroll number is scary, but doesn't necesarily mean that we are trading someone. Bear with me here folks. Â Coming into this off season, the goal stated for season tickets was to move the base from 11,000 to 15,000 people. Before January first even rolled around, we are at 20,000 people now, which means we are sitting on about an attendance of 1.6 million people before a single regular season single game ticket has been sold. Last year we sold about 1.3 million of those on our way to the World Series. This year we have a World Series title to sell tickets with. If we even sell another million tickets or so from here on out, we are looking at another 20% increase in attendace over 2005, theoretically putting that much more cash into the budget. I said it in August, and I will say it again, $100 million is very, very possible for this team to maintain in its current form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controlled Chaos Posted December 28, 2005 Share Posted December 28, 2005 any where I can find a list of pictchers salaries for next year?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted December 28, 2005 Share Posted December 28, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 28, 2005 -> 12:34 PM) Contreras will almost definitely get traded now. As many on here know, I was saying all along he should be the one to get traded due to having the highest value at the time. Teams look at Contreras as a potential ace, where as Garland is more of a 2-3.  I'm not so sure about that. Why trade a guy that could possibly be an ace?!?...especially at that price. Unless he brings back some really good returns. Could a deal with Tampa be on the horizon again?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 28, 2005 Share Posted December 28, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 28, 2005 -> 12:34 PM) Contreras will almost definitely get traded now. As many on here know, I was saying all along he should be the one to get traded due to having the highest value at the time. Teams look at Contreras as a potential ace, where as Garland is more of a 2-3. The Southtown reported a week or so ago that Conteras was very close to signing an extension. I wonder if talks went south. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted December 28, 2005 Share Posted December 28, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Dec 28, 2005 -> 12:37 PM) The payroll number is scary, but doesn't necesarily mean that we are trading someone. Bear with me here folks. Coming into this off season, the goal stated for season tickets was to move the base from 11,000 to 15,000 people. Before January first even rolled around, we are at 20,000 people now, which means we are sitting on about an attendance of 1.6 million people before a single regular season single game ticket has been sold. Last year we sold about 1.3 million of those on our way to the World Series. This year we have a World Series title to sell tickets with. If we even sell another million tickets or so from here on out, we are looking at another 20% increase in attendace over 2005, theoretically putting that much more cash into the budget. I said it in August, and I will say it again, $100 million is very, very possible for this team to maintain in its current form. I think the point of starting the TV netowork with the other teams was to increase revenue too, so I imagine with that in its 2nd year, the returns from that are probably being noticed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 28, 2005 Share Posted December 28, 2005 Best part of this news: No more Garland trade threads! Â Worst part: Bring on the Contreras Trade threads! Â Oh, and in the eyes of my fiancee, our team just got a lot "cuter" for next year. I'm not sure if that's good or bad yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted December 28, 2005 Share Posted December 28, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 28, 2005 -> 01:34 PM) Contreras will almost definitely get traded now. The same was thought about Garland, so who really knows whats inside Kenny's head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted December 28, 2005 Share Posted December 28, 2005 QUOTE(Wanne @ Dec 28, 2005 -> 01:38 PM) I'm not so sure about that. Why trade a guy that could possibly be an ace?!?...especially at that price. Unless he brings back some really good returns. Could a deal with Tampa be on the horizon again?!? Because he's old and who knows if he can keep it together for an entire year. Trading him now, while his value is at an all-time high, makes the most sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 28, 2005 Share Posted December 28, 2005 Does anyone else think that this suggests KW may seriously be considering running a 6 man rotation for at least a month or so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpringfieldFan Posted December 28, 2005 Share Posted December 28, 2005 It is ironic. I remember not so long ago reading a thread topic that illustrated the Sox problems by pointing out the Yankees had six viable startes while the Sox had two. My have the tables turned, huh? Â Right now, I bet in offices in the north side, Cleveland, Minnesota, Anaheim, Boston, and NY, there are more hands being thown in the air then at an annual Jerry Falwell special. Â SFF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted December 28, 2005 Share Posted December 28, 2005 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Dec 28, 2005 -> 01:06 PM) I thought Garland didn't want to be here? Â Â Your right dick, and I humbly say I am was wrong. Money talks and now the sox are over budget. anyone think Mcarthy will now be traded? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted December 28, 2005 Share Posted December 28, 2005 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 28, 2005 -> 12:41 PM) Does anyone else think that this suggests KW may seriously be considering running a 6 man rotation for at least a month or so? it's interesting considering the workloads, but it would throw off our starters rythms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted December 28, 2005 Share Posted December 28, 2005 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 28, 2005 -> 12:41 PM) Does anyone else think that this suggests KW may seriously be considering running a 6 man rotation for at least a month or so? I think they would put McCarthy in the bullpen if they came in with 6. Last year when Cooper was asked about it he said he doesn't like the 6 man rotation. Basically said it throws off schedules and he thinks extra rest can sometimes hurt a pitcher. Â But who knows with KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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