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post Feb 20, 2017 -> 11:34 AM
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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 17, 2017 -> 01:29 PM) *
If we are looking at the roster as currently constructed, plus the minors as currently constructed we have zero offense in our future and barely any in our pipeline. If our hitters are coming from prospect trades and the draft this team is at least next decade away.


Collins, Anderson, Moncada, and Basabe are all in the pipeline. If one of Fisher, Call, Engel, or Tilson hits, that's not a bad pipeline. But I'm in the camp of going all out for Machado when he hits free agency, and there's always the chance that Abreu is still a productive DH into his mid to late 30's.
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post Feb 20, 2017 -> 11:54 AM
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QUOTE (ChiSox1917 @ Feb 20, 2017 -> 11:34 AM) *
Collins, Anderson, Moncada, and Basabe are all in the pipeline. If one of Fisher, Call, Engel, or Tilson hits, that's not a bad pipeline. But I'm in the camp of going all out for Machado when he hits free agency, and there's always the chance that Abreu is still a productive DH into his mid to late 30's.


When you look at the offense we have now, and realize we gave up Eaton, and will be losing Frazier in the next year, plus Abreu before we are good again, that isn't very much help.

Not being able to add in any offense this winter (really Moncada in with Eaton out is probably close to a wash long term) just means another year of rebuilding and looking for offense on the back side of this.
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post Feb 20, 2017 -> 12:02 PM
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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 20, 2017 -> 11:54 AM) *
When you look at the offense we have now, and realize we gave up Eaton, and will be losing Frazier in the next year, plus Abreu before we are good again, that isn't very much help.

Not being able to add in any offense this winter (really Moncada in with Eaton out is probably close to a wash long term) just means another year of rebuilding and looking for offense on the back side of this.

After the Sale and Eaton trades, I'm glad they didn't add any offense via FA this winter. I hope they do the same next offseason. This team is at least 2-3 years away from competing so might as well save that $ for when it is really needed like two winters from now. At some point, they do need to unload Q, Jones, and Robertson for position player prospects though. While it may be realistic to sign two players like Brian Dozier and Wilson Ramos two years from now, they are going to need a lot more than that to compete even if guys like Anderson, Collins, and Moncada are contributing.
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post Feb 20, 2017 -> 03:16 PM
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QUOTE (JUSTgottaBELIEVE @ Feb 20, 2017 -> 06:02 PM) *
After the Sale and Eaton trades, I'm glad they didn't add any offense via FA this winter. I hope they do the same next offseason. This team is at least 2-3 years away from competing so might as well save that $ for when it is really needed like two winters from now. At some point, they do need to unload Q, Jones, and Robertson for position player prospects though. While it may be realistic to sign two players like Brian Dozier and Wilson Ramos two years from now, they are going to need a lot more than that to compete even if guys like Anderson, Collins, and Moncada are contributing.

Save that money?? The White Sox?? I think they will enjoy the low payroll. Hopefully the fans won't come and won't buy any merchanidise and speed the rebuild which IMO is off to a slow slow start.
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post Feb 20, 2017 -> 03:49 PM
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QUOTE (JUSTgottaBELIEVE @ Feb 20, 2017 -> 12:02 PM) *
After the Sale and Eaton trades, I'm glad they didn't add any offense via FA this winter. I hope they do the same next offseason. This team is at least 2-3 years away from competing so might as well save that $ for when it is really needed like two winters from now. At some point, they do need to unload Q, Jones, and Robertson for position player prospects though. While it may be realistic to sign two players like Brian Dozier and Wilson Ramos two years from now, they are going to need a lot more than that to compete even if guys like Anderson, Collins, and Moncada are contributing.


Rebuilding is going to be a multi year process

The organization will look different 12 months from now than it does today with the draft, trades, shrewd signings, player development, etc.

We certainly have a long way to go with bats, but everyone has to like us stockpiling young arms with high upside

The Sox are in a great payroll position moving forward, with very little on the books past the next couple seasons once Frazier, Melky and Shields are gone

They certainly will have enough to add to the roster via free agency, but building from within will be important too. It's not just about the near future within 5 years, but building an organization from the ground up that is capable of sustained success for the long term as well.

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post Feb 20, 2017 -> 04:44 PM
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QUOTE (steveno89 @ Feb 20, 2017 -> 03:49 PM) *
Rebuilding is going to be a multi year process

The organization will look different 12 months from now than it does today with the draft, trades, shrewd signings, player development, etc.

We certainly have a long way to go with bats, but everyone has to like us stockpiling young arms with high upside

The Sox are in a great payroll position moving forward, with very little on the books past the next couple seasons once Frazier, Melky and Shields are gone

They certainly will have enough to add to the roster via free agency, but building from within will be important too. It's not just about the near future within 5 years, but building an organization from the ground up that is capable of sustained success for the long term as well.

Agree with everything you say. Glad the Sox are rebuilding the entire organization from rookie ball to the big League club. If they do this right, and I do believe in Hahn, then we won't be hearing "retooling/rebuilding on the fly" as well as " three year window" in the future. Imo, the White Sox goal is to have a sustainable farm to rely on much like the Cardinals have. There's been on alot of focus from the FO on scouting, drafting and player development but it's still in the early stages. Looking at the last few drafts it's easy to see the Sox have changed their approach on drafting hitters from toolsy position players to high contact/OBP position players and I really like it. Sox fans just need to be patient while these players develop over the next few years.
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