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We REALLY want Tommy Pham back

For Pat it's a little different. ESPN is in reality licensing his show. Pat retains large editorial control, and the costs to produce the show are his alone. That's probably like 15 million right off the top, maybe more. Pat does a good job branding, including on social media, so I'm sure he thinks he'll make more on the top having that overall control. I have no idea why they pay SAS what they do. I don't know anybody my age that has put his show on in 15 years. I think he exists to fill large content holes for ESPN and without a suitable replacement they are willing to pay him more than he's worth so they aren't replaying corn hole or whatever at the 10am hour. As a brand he has value to them more than just his viewership, as he is frequently a social media flash point and generates eye balls outside the hours his show is aired. ESPN in general has been struggling to turn a profit. Their margins are under attack in various directions. They are still profitable but the margins are less than they were before the explosion in cord cutting and broadcast rights fees.

Yea I saw TRADE and thought we made an acquisition for a SP or something… then I quickly saw Vargas and knew it was rehashing time.

Three factoids today: July 16, 1980 - Bill Veeck’s ownership syndicate accepted offers to buy the White Sox. Sox broadcaster Harry Caray was one of those expressing interest along with millionaire Edward DeBartolo Sr. DeBartolo would eventually be turned away from getting the club after he had a deal with Veeck by Commissioner Bowie Kuhn and the other owners and Veeck eventually sold the club to Jerry Reinsdorf and Eddie Einhorn in January 1981. July 16, 1990 – It was one of the funniest moments in Sox history, as Sox utility player Steve “Psycho” Lyons made a mistake that wound up on every highlight show in the nation. In the fifth inning at Detroit, Lyons bunted his way on, sliding head first the final few feet to beat the throw. He then called time and completely blanked out as he started to drop his pants to get the dirt out of them. Fortunately, he was wearing sliding shorts. When he realized what he was doing he quickly yanked his pants back up while turning beet red in the process. After he was forced at second base later in the inning and ran back to the dugout, female fans in the first few rows behind the Sox bench began waving dollar bills at him. July 16, 2013 – The White Sox Chris Sale got the win as the A.L. beat the N.L. 3-0 at the All-Star Game from Citi Field in New York. Sale pitched two innings facing the minimum six batters and recording two strikeouts which came during the second and third innings. His strikeouts victims were Carlos Gonzales and Troy Tulowitzki. He got credit for the win when the A.L. scored the lead and eventual winning run in the top of the fourth inning when he was still the pitcher of record.

I don't think you understand. He is wealthy so you are not allowed to dislike him. His wealth is proof that he is uniquely imbued with God's grace.

If it weren't for the rest of the roster issues, it wouldn't be a bad claim for the Sox. They need SP innings, badly.

Credit to Vargas and Sox coaching staff. It's not every day a random back end top 75 type guy turns into a 5 WAR star.

Ranked 31st at BA currently. I'll take a second Bonemer for sure.

i saw TRADE and fedde and vargas casually scrolling and almost fell out of my chair...

I know nostalgia is in, and those look backs to our childhood, as we are the target audience, but man I hated that original TV series in the 80s. The books were decent, but definitely boring for very long stretches, but the TV series was based on the worst part of the series. This is one I will definitely skip out on.

Yep, again the draft is the sum of the parts not each individual round. In this case is probably worth pointing out that the senior signings are the ones making room for this choice and dollar amount to happen. Without them, they probably don't have this money.

Joendry Vargas's numbers so far are decent, but he hasn't been past A ball. He's only 20, so I can see why the Dodgers would wanna hang onto him in 2024 (18yo) but either way I'm glad they got Miguel. I can't remember who was the Chicago radio guy it was, I think Levine, but they said the Sox chose the wrong Vargas

Man, while the Braves were complimented on their draft class and shrewd spending of their pool, I kinda feel for their senior signs picks 8-10. "Congratulations we are drafting you to be an Atlanta Brave! By the way we are going to pay you $500". They didn't get 500k, they each got 500 bucks. I think I might refuse to sign on principal and let them lose about 200k from their pool. I guess that ends your career but wow.

Even if they didn't like the trade there were still a few early believers in Vargas. Shoutout to: @Jake @bmags @Chisoxfn @PaleAleSox @ChiSoxFanMike @Y2Jimmy0 @greg775 You guys get to claim OG status of "Miguel Vargas Fan Club" Sorry if I missed anyone, skimming through quickly between work calls.

It's less physically demanding to play 3000+ outs a year at 3rd than SS. In a sport where guys get injured jogging to first base, you might want to take some precautionary measures to preserve your superstars' careers, particularly when you have good alternatives. We've seen Colson's defense take a dip after sitting with a 'strained back' last month, his OAA has dropped from +9 to +5 in that time. He's 24-years-old now, how is that defense going to look when he's 29 and how is the strain going to affect his bat or ability to even play games? I'm still of the mind that Colson inevitably ends up at 1B and I think it's more fascinating that people are writing off Carlson/want to trade him prematurely when he's the best defender in the system with a potentially non-useless bat.

Damn man, you nailed it.

yup. my thoughts as well

The 2020 White Sox, the "green shoots" version of that core, were 3rd in MLB in home runs. But again, I'm not down on this team at all -- I love the core and think it has a good chance to stick. And unlike the last flameout core we have a healthier wave of prospects on their way to fill whatever holes are created by injury, regression, the cheapness of an owner who might not be anxious to give Japanese Judge a record-destroying contract, etc. But those holes can open up quick, and I think we mentally lock guys into decade-long starting spots at our peril. (Not really, since what we as fans think and expect doesn't have any real-world stakes, but you know what I mean.) It's why it's so important to draft well, stockpile prospects, and not make rash moves for flashes-in-the-pan.

Beautiful reread. Miss some of these posters.

I think Vargas, beyond his play on the field, has been a huge addition. He's a leader, everyone seems to love him, and his attitude is contagious. He and Mune have really seemed to hit it off. Add that to his team MVP play, and he's one of the best acquisitions in a long time.

Will go down as one of the great trades in White Sox history. And we got Fedde back and he has been a contributor this year. IMO, Vargas has been the first half AL MVP.

The real change was waking Jerry up. For the first time in his life, he is willing to spend on something outside of the major league roster. There are all kinds of stories out there about other people in the org hinting that they wanted to do more, and acting like they were doing more, which ended up being complete lies sold to us by a compliant local media, including even Getz himself talking about how much freedom he had to do anything he wanted. Hopefully this continues.

I was suspended at the 2024 deadline, so I wasn't able to comment. That being said, my views were that Vargas was a great acquisition, Fedde was smoke and mirrors, and Kopech was a head case who wouldn't amount to much beyond that season. I felt we needed to have patience for Perez and Albertus. Hate to say I told you so...

I was wrong and love it

In order to sign #11 at over slot, you have to know two things: first that 1-10 will sign because if one doesn't that pool of money is lost. Secondly you need to know what the $ value is so that you can offer #11 (and hopefully more picks 12-19) a firm amount. The implication being that 1-10 are done deals as well.