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Lmao are we not to comment on players because we might hurt your feelings? Please list the players we can only say good things about, we certainly don’t want to cross your line of unnecessary comments

I think a lot of people wanted Elko called up cuz Vaughn was so bad. Not sure the majority of people who wanted him called up thought he would break out. It was basically, we suck at 1B as it is, may as well give Elko a shot. That’s how I remember it at least. I could be wrong.

I do think this is fair. In hindsight it is easy to judge the results, but the guy was the top available player at the position the Sox needed to fix the most. If we had done similar with guys like Machado and/or Bryce Harper, I can't help but draw a new timeline that looks much different.

Not a single person watching that game cared about that or viewed it negatively.

He's no Meade

Yes, he started off super hot in AAA, Vaughn was scraping the bottom of the barrel. We brought him up, he hit a homerun and then struck out like 10 times in 20 at bats, and WBWSF decided that he was going to the hall of fame. Seems like Kreevitch did too

No you are correct there. It was the most logical move given all the circumstances, but they've seemingly never won a true bidding war on a player that was in high demand.

Karine Jean-Pierre articulated slightly better arguments recently...

Which was my entire original point in saying that guy doesn't seem to exist now.

I agree with most of this. They're upgrading everything, beefing up minor league hitting with coordinators and coaches. At some point, they have to develop a power hitter, right?

Don’t read it then.

This is me being nitpicky, but I wouldn't lump Grandal into the category of bad signings. It made all the sense in the world at that moment in time. James McCann put up a great 2019 with the Sox but everyone knew it was kind of a fluke season. The "core" was starting to come together in 2019 with Abreu-Anderson-Moncada-Eloy-Giolito-Cease, with Robert and Madrigal on the way. They added Grandal in November, and wanted to sign Wheeler next. Wheeler ended up signing with the Phillies on December 9th, and the Sox settled for Keuchel on December 30th. Sox really needed some balance in the lineup as their entire core was made up of RHH and his switch hitting power profile made a lot of sense to add to the team. We all know how it ended up going, but that was the right move at the time.

Spending money on short term contracts that get you out from under them quickly is not really spending money. It’s smoke and mirrors. A parlor trick and unhealthy candy for the fans. A Harper signing would have been a healthy signing. A Grandal and Benitendi and Belle signing are silliness.

Including this one.

Why is this thread becoming a TMZ report?

Your comment was more unnecessary.

Can I please get a $1 royalty/residual for every time my name is invoked?

Yawn 🥱 another 100 losses

One L. But it was Larry Himes that actually knew what he was doing. Just didn't have the personality to play well with others (aka kiss bosses' asses).

They will still stink...just maybe not quite as bad.

I think you gotta stick with Caleb through at least his 2nd contract. We all agree we got the coach, right? He should get the best out of Caleb then. Imagine cutting bait on him and then he goes to Tampa or Minnesota and finally comes into his own like Baker or Darnold. Gotta have patience with these young guys. QB is one of the toughest jobs in sports.

A lot of dead horses to beat when it comes to JR and his tenure. A few for me that stand out the most are: -Not doing what it takes to bring in Miguel Cabrera. Everyone KNEW that that dude was a total stud. We didn't because we didn't want to take Dontrelle Willis? FFS you do what it takes to get one of the best hitters of all time on your team. Instead he went their direct rival the Tigers and tortured us for the rest of his career. -Not doing what it took to bring in Machado and/or Harper. "The money will be spent", but never was, and we watch them both have nice careers at bargain value contracts nowadays. It was time to add to that team but we didn't. It likely failed anyway but that's when I knew this would be the same old s%*#. Hahn was given the autonomy to try out a rebuild but could only pay top of market free agent contracts to relievers. -Not investing in a top notch Minor League system and scouts. At the very least if you're going to be a cheap asshole, invest in your minor leagues and make sure you get the most out of the young players you bring in. So we couldn't even be like Tampa Bay. -Shitting on the idea of signing Ohtani. Yes, of course he wasn't going to come here. But for f*** sake JR at least had the ability to see that signing Jordan to insane (especially at the time) 1 year deals was worth it because paying for a guy like Jordan pays dividends. Ohtani would have paid handsome dividends as well. JR should know what it's like to have one of the GOATs in his organization and laughing at the idea of Ohtani was just pathetic and frankly, shows a lacking of business acumen. Then again, didn't Mike have to get the Knicks involved before JR finally ponied up? LOL -Not doing what it took to bring in Lebron his first go around as a free agent. -Tony La Russa There's plenty more.

Boy Wonder needed Hagen over him and several others…..

Yesavage is on another level than any of these guys, and still his jump is massive outlier. Sox are going to need a lot more than a breakout season or two to even sniff .500.

Doubtful and who knows there may not even be a season in 2027. I have a very hard time thinking this bunch especially with a limited rotation and an atrocious bullpen is going to go from 60 to 75 wins myself but you do you.