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I'm glad I was wrong about Willie, also. I thought he was a hopeless stiff at the plate. I hope he keeps it up.

I don't think he's a piece of s***, but I would bat him 8th the rest of the year.

I can't believe Oz would put up with a loafer. Wonder if he'll last long if Oz think he's loafing.

The way he's going, we need to bat him 8th or 9th the rest of the year and just count on him for his defense. He just can't hit. Lucky for us and Joe he hits deep fly balls when we need em for walk off wins.

Great post chisoxfn. Great logic. I say bring him on after reading your post. Makes sense.

I don't particularly like Koch, but congrats to Anthony for sticking by his closer. If Koch ends up saving 30, you will have the last laugh. For now I'm just glad he got last night's save.

We don't have the game on TV here. Did Timo really dog it? If so I agree go with 'Ro' But did he really loaf? I would think that inexcusable under Oz.

Good stats soxrus. I say simply cut him or make him a middle reliever mop up.

You are right, there should be a b****ing thread. Unless there is a pattern of a guy sucking, it's pretty simple minded to just say a guy sucks or get rid of a guy or he sucks.

I hope we don't overpay. KW has been doing a better job the last couple years, hope he keeps it up.

Why are you all mad at Couch? I think it was a great article. He wrote: If you cannot develop your own talent and then keep it when it matures, then you are small-time. HOW TRUE! It's the f***ing truth.

Amazing Maggs finally got hurt. Get well, Maggs. You are a stud and the White Sox are lucky to have you. I can understand Oz's thinking. I kind of wish Joe B would be the man, however. I don't see why we fans on here are so high on Reed if he's hitting .250 and can't hit a home run.

Sox R Us at some point you have to pay a guy what he's worth on the market. If the Chicago (small market team in big market) White Sox can't keep Magglio Ordonez, then disband the team. Nuke the team. Baseball still wants to downsize anyway. We must keep Maggs.

Oh well, s*** happens. Scope it and bring up Joe B. It's Joe time.

Good point Tizzle. I wonder what we should do? Koch is horrible and Shingo probably isn't the answer, is he? I'd say Marte is our only hope.

It definitely would be interesting to see what Mr. Zero could do as everyday closer, but my vote goes to Marte.

Great, great point. He was on fire. I'd play him four of every seven games or five of seven til he starts becoming the type of Crede we saw today.

We're still fine. All we have to do in this division is hang around .500 and we'll be in it all year. I personally think if all goes well, we finish 10 over .500. No more than that. We have too many holes to do better than that. 10 over .500 will win this division. If we had a decent closer or Marte takes over the role effectively and if Oz keeps platooning guys like Uribe, Aaron, Crede, Willie, who are not stars I think we'll finish 10 over .500 and win division. p.s. I'm not a big Sandy Alomar fan.

It seems like he's had a lot more than two blown saves. He never seems like he's got good stuff. At least the games I've seen on the telly. I just think we'd be better off without the guy. Except for the money we're paying him, is there any reason to keep Koch? He doesn't get people out.

I agree with all of you. This thread isn't an undeserved rant. He's simply not good enough, at least in a Sox uniform. Trade him to the Mets for one marginal prospect.

One thing about Ozzie is he is not stupid. I would be shocked if this isn't curtains for Koch. He just isn't a good closer anymore. At least not for the Sox. Ozzie started to platoon Rowand and Crede is getting a bit more time off not playing every single day. I firmly believe we're going to see Marte be our closer night in and out from now on. Koch is simply not good enough. Again, Oz is a very smart skipper and baseball guy. I think Koch is done. I think we'd be better off releasing him or dumping him to the NL for one marginal prospect. It's just not working out. It's like Clayton and Todd Ritchie. It's a failed experience. Please Sox, dump Koch. I don't even want him in our bullpen by committee. Make it Marte and Zero.

Some games you aren't meant to win. This was one of 'em. We played well. We lost a great game.

Keep it goin, Damaso.

I didn't mean to diss Marte, I just sense we gave it a helluva shot tonight but are destined to fall. I love Marte. He's hooking that curve and firing the fastball tonite.

Hey, calf injuries suck. You tear your calf muscle and you are OUT OUT OUT. Give the guy a bleeping break. Please! p.s. is cussing allowed on message boards. This threat deserves the f bomb.