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QUOTE(SoxHawk1980 @ Aug 4, 2006 -> 06:04 PM) I know he's had some good starts of late, but he's had more bad outings than good ones this season. That doesn't make for much of an ace. He's still Judy in my book, with an ERA appropriate for a #5 starter. Ya, afterall, take away the first two months of the season and no starter on our staff is even close to him. Than here was last year where he was our best and most consistent pitcher. Without Jon we'd be about 4 more games back. He's been the only going doing anything in this rotation since the break. Afterall since like July 6th...Javier Vazquez and Count have 2 wins. They are the only starters to have wins IIRC, aside from Jon who is 6-0 and we'll see if he can go to 7-0.

Thome looks like a professional hitter today. A double down the 3rd base line, a deep double, and now a clean single plus a walk.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Aug 4, 2006 -> 06:02 PM) That should be it for Garland. Except for 1 pitch, he was very good yet again, and should get the win with a little help from the bullpen. His only subpar start (of late) was the last outing in which he was battling a viral infection. He truly is our "ace".

QUOTE(G&T @ Aug 4, 2006 -> 05:57 PM) Almost an amazing play by Crede, still a great job saving a double. Yep, that save let Jon get out of the inning with one outside fastball that Glaus rolled over.

Jon Garland gave up 2 earned runs as far as I'm concerned in 6 innings and made just one mistake (to Glaus). Way to battle jon and a damn solid 6 inning performance. To our ace Oh and I say this becuase there is absolutely no reason to have Jon come out in the 7th.

Redding is awful.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Aug 4, 2006 -> 05:58 PM) How many homers has Glaus hit against Garland? 3 of Glaus's 4 hits off Jon have left the building.

Wow, if Crede made that throw that would have been ridiculous.

QUOTE(CYGarland @ Aug 4, 2006 -> 05:00 PM) That's just it, and alot of his numbers this year have been in bunches, his consistency has not been good. Seems like he is all or nothing. I think he's been far more consistent. Last year I can think of a lot of times where he would go into some major funks when he couldn't hit a breaking ball to save his life. He still isn't good with breaking balls, but he's gotten better and because of that he usually is capable of doing something in pretty much every game.

QUOTE(CYGarland @ Aug 4, 2006 -> 04:54 PM) Very true, and I'd like to have the 05 Iguchi back as well. I actually think Tadahito has been much much better this year than he was last year.

QUOTE(JimH @ Aug 4, 2006 -> 04:52 PM) I like Scioscia too, but he isn't here Jason. If the players can't get the job done, then the general manager needs to get new players. It's that simple. Ask the players what they think of Guillen. That will open a lot of people's eyes. That said, I like Razor Shines ... a lot. I think that perceptoin with the players is starting to change, but I couldn't say that for sure. I know a couple people that aren't big Ozzie fans at all that are on the Sox 25 man roster. I can't go anymore into it, but it seems like there has been a change. However, just cause a select few feel that way, doesn't necessarily mean the majority aren't completely with him. And I double that on Razor Shines. He's going to be a big league manager very soon (maybe as early as next year, too bad Ozzie will be back and we won't have him). I hate saying it cause I thought Ozzie pulled the right buttons last year and I didn't mind when he was wrong when he was being agressive. This year he's not doing that. I see no reason to ever play Mack in CF, he's not that. If Ozzie wants someone, than ask Kenny and I'm sure Kenny would have been able to find him a backup CF (we all know Kenny does all he can to get whatever Ozz asks of). I'm of the theory that Ozzie gets away with murder right now because the majority of the fan base loves him (not necessarily the die hards, cause most of the diehards I talk to on a continuos basis are not major fans of Ozzie) and obviously we have a world series with him (also ties to the whole fan base). Most managers that did some of the things he did this year (between the "f**" comment, Garland/Tracey incidents and than the much more quiet Tracey incident and I would be hard pressed to think of any manager not named Ozzie that would still have his job).

QUOTE(G&T @ Aug 4, 2006 -> 04:51 PM) Hey look at what that bunt and steal did! Yep, it was a thing of beauty.

Thome comes through with a RBI Double

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Aug 4, 2006 -> 04:49 PM) OH MY GOD Double that. We see more of this Pods and I'd be a whole lot happier. Halladay is slow but Molina has a cannon (even if he's throwing out a lower % of guys right now than he did with the Halos).

QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Aug 4, 2006 -> 04:49 PM) ^^^^^^ Bad behavior and putting players in positions they can't play. Maybe Garland can get a start at SS tomorrow; good arm and a decent hitter.

QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Aug 4, 2006 -> 04:45 PM) Then the championship honeymoon for Ozzie is rapidly coming to a head. I'll always thank him for that year, but I live in the now and Ozzie doesn't work with a team full of quality players. He works best with a scrappy firy team and this team isn't exactly that. I also think ozzie would be one of the worse when it came to developing young players on a rebuilding ball club (not that we will be there). People call Mike Ditka great, I call him crap. To only win 1 superbowl with that team was a travesty. I'm not saying its as big of a travesty for the Sox not to do so (and we don't know what will happen) but when this taem misses the playoffs and fails to make noise (note I didn't say "if") it will be a total embarassment and joke. I realize its not easy to make the playoffs, but we haven't had injuries to blame thus far (not saying it couldn't happen). Bottom line is this team has played without fire and while thats on the players its also on the manager. I'd hate to see Ozzie cost us a few more years just like I think Jerry Manuel cost us a few times.

QUOTE(JimH @ Aug 4, 2006 -> 04:40 PM) Then, you'll complain about Sandy to no end. It's not the manager, it's the players. Your blame is, for the most part, misdirected. Disagree. Ozzie handled himself absolutely disgracefully between the Garland and Tracey incident (more so with the Tracey incident, especially when you consider behind the scenes stuff). Than his lone strenght (being agressive) has dissapeared and he continually puts players in a position where they can't possibly succeed (Mack in CF, Pablo in LF, sadly Pods in LF, not giving Bmac a chance a month ago after we had contiuosly horrible starting all season). Its one thing if we didn't have the players, but we do. Our guys in the rotation are also totally to blame as well, Ozzie hasn't hung or made the poor pitches, but at the same time he's sat there expecting them to magically get better as opposed to being proactive and trying something. My problems with Ozzie are with all of his dumb idiotic comments and statements (see Tracey/Garland) and with his failure to be proactive and try to improve things. I've been saying this for a while now and I've called for his firing more than once (not that it really means anything). Give me Mike Scioscia any day of the week.

QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 4, 2006 -> 04:37 PM) My only wish is that if we tank the rest of the year, Ozzie will quit. Then, Sandy can retire, and he'll become manager. I love Sandy, but I want Razor. Either way, call me a pessimist, but I've completely given up on this team. They are absolutely hopeless with there weak ass starting rotation. Things aren't going to just magically get better either. I know Freddy is crap, the only miracle that could happen would be Garland continuing to dominate (sans the first inning with some spiffy defense), Contreras starting to dominate again and Buehrle/Vaz figuring things out. The odds of all of that happening in a few month span with our pitchers already worn down is slim to none and without that, we are a .500 team at best. Oh and Hawk, just stop whining. Who gives a crap if the calls don't go our way, calls don't cost you from making the playoffs, bad plays do.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Aug 4, 2006 -> 04:33 PM) Think Ozzie will beach at Mack for not playing defense well enough in CF, just to see how ironic things can get? Of cfourse not. Ozzie has double standards, some people get treated completely harsh and ran over, while others get away with everything. He should be fired and I've been calling for it for some time now (ever since the Tracey incident which I thought was complete and utter garbage; than again after the Garland incident and for the fact that he did absolutely nothing to try and get the tema fired back up when they were in a major funk, ie base running; afterall, Hawk kept saying he wouldn't just sit around, but thats all Ozzie's done this year).

Face it people, we aren't a good team. Good teams don't have piece of spiff pitching staffs. Thats the bottom line. Oh and our defense is blowing things big time and considering we have a kick butt defense, we also have a manager thats absolutely horrible because he's done his best to at times ruin our defense.

If I lived in the area I'd so be down. I'm always game for a sport (play soccer on Monday's and Bball on Thursdays).

QUOTE(maggsmaggs @ Aug 3, 2006 -> 06:13 PM) I'll let you because I have Rick on twice a year on my radio shows, so I don't want him to think I am using him too much, if that makes sense. I need to keep him happy since one day he will be a GM and I can still hopefully get him for shows. When u e-mail him, just say your from futuresox.com and I am sure he will be more than willing, real nice guy. Also, when do you want the prospect reviews done by? Uhh...Monday or so would be sweet, but no worries if its a little later. Speaking of which I'm going to put your draft piece back up as the main piece tomorrow since it didn't get as much hay time due to the site being hacked this past weekend.

QUOTE(maggsmaggs @ Aug 3, 2006 -> 06:02 PM) Hey, Jas, did Hahn ever respond to you? But for Sickels: What do you think of Aaron Cunningham, does he have a bright future? I found out my email was going through junk on certain filters so I gotta resend my emails to Hahn and Wilder and am still working on getting Shaffer's email. I'll resend, unless you feel more comfortable sending to Rick since you've dealt with him in the past?

Played the best round of golf of my life. I shot a 96 losing just 3 golf balls. This was keeping the real score, any out of bouns penalties counted, if I lost the ball I hit a provisional, no mulligans, nothing. I was totally impressed cause I was playing one of the hardest courses in California (well it was just ranked as one of the 5 toughest new courses in the US). Only flaws was I 3 putted the last 3 holes when I was about 9 feet away looking at par each time (it was rather pathetic). And on the final 2 holes of the front I shot a double and triple bogey. Aside from that I was really on. Had 2 300 plus drives (one 311, the other 300...give or take a few yards depending on pin placement). Ya, it may not be an impressive score, but I'm way cocky now about my golf game and look forward to going back out in a few days only to get my ass kicked in.

I'm really looking forward to this and than ones with Wilder and Schaffer cause this will give us an idea of what an outside analyst thinks of the systems and than a bit about what our own organizational guys like as well as there draft/scouting philosphies.