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QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 19, 2010 -> 03:45 PM) Ozzie, you've never heard of Dennis Tankersley? Great reliever for the A's? He was on the teams with the bash brothers, Mark Miller and Jose Cantu. Naw I caught it. I spelled Eck's name wrong.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 19, 2010 -> 09:00 AM) The Club crew is in Charlotte this week to focus on Chris Sale, Tyler Flowers, and Brent Morel. Damn.. what a diss that is to the stud known as Jordan Danks.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 19, 2010 -> 11:34 AM) 2.30 ERA at Safeco, 5.74 ERA on the road. A fastball that doesn't reach 90. A BABIP of .268. K/9 less than 5. Terrible in 3 of his 4 starts since coming back from injury (and surprise, surprise, the only outing he didn't suck in was his outing at Safeco). Fister is no better than a league average pitcher who has been aided by pitching in one of the most pitcher friendly environments in all of baseball. But hey.. according to chw42.. you can't ignore the numbers! (sorry chw, had to do it buddy)

Man.. that was a nice way of saying he was a terrible pick. I've never been a fan of drafting relievers in the first 5 rounds (hell even 10 and you wouldn't hear me complaining) in the draft. Always thought that was suicide to a scouts' career unless the guy better be the next Eckersley/Rivera/steroid up Gagne. Most pitchers drafted become relievers anyway when they might fail as a starting pitcher later on.

QUOTE (T R U @ Jul 19, 2010 -> 01:40 AM) Care to name "everybody"? LeBron James, Dwayne Wade, Barry Bonds......? And that's LeBron and Wade NEWLY added to everyone's "hate" list.. and the only reason they are there is because.. 1. Bulls fans who are upset LeBron didn't pick Chicago 2. Basketball fans who are upset that the Heat will be the best team in the league for the foreseeable future Like I give a s*** what the people on this board think of me or my posts, I only like maybe 5 people out of the thousands that post here.. so no, its not to just get a rise out of everyone.. I mean what I say 100% I love everybody that people hate because they are usually the best.. I.E. LeBron, Bonds, Etc. So anyways, who else do I love that everyone hates? Alright since this is so typical of you, I'll play along Carl. Miami Dolphins Willy Tavares CM Punk (though there might be a couple of posters who like him too that I've missed) Billy Koch Terrell Owens (correct me if I'm wrong if that was you or someone else) Phillip Rivers (that was the guy I might have been thinking of we agree on as well, though I'm sure people might love him cause of their little fantasy league, but hate the "prick" as he's often called here) That is just off the top of my head at 4:30 in the morning. I can probably put a better list up tomorrow when I'm not half asleep. (I don't have admin powers either to just look up these thing in 2.5 seconds) And your other point is blatantly false. Go back to the middle pages and you'll see many people here hated LeBron before the whole FA thing happened. In fact, I believe a poster here didn't even want him here because of his antics and was seriously called out by other posters here. Add "the decision" on top of that and you got yourself a grade A POS. Would people like him if he came to Chicago? Sure, but that still doesn't change the fact that he probably still gets ripped on but probably has the "well.. he's our douche now" card. He would have been "tolerable" than "loved" I can promise you that. Now D-Wade on the other hand, was more mixed. (more-so his "loyalty" comments put every Bulls fan away from him, hating the guy) After those comments, everyone then hated him and how he basically lured the other two there. I actually liked Wade way more than LeBron prior to FA FYI. I don't have a problem with Wade still (hell I give him props for banging Gabrielle Union) but obviously he can be a dick. I still don't mind Wade, but hates how he handles himself off the court. On the court however, he is a beast and pretty professional for the most part. And I know damn well I better be 1 of the 5 or your black ass is dead to me. BTW, I'll say my bad by saying "everybody" which I also was thinking other "discussions" that most don't agree with what you've said in the past with certain issues. (golf not being a sport, hating soccer, etc..) Should have worded it a bit differently.

QUOTE (BearSox @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 11:22 PM) We need a RF. Quentin looks like he hurts himself running now. He is just too injury prone, and not that good defensively in the first place to be out there everyday, and he would greatly benefit from being a full time DH. Naw, Kalapse won't be convinced until "Quentin tears an ACL or something" to be declared injury prone.

I will still never understand why Bobby (and the sox brass) felt he needed to be a "true pitcher." He is a closer. This dude has like 6 god damn pitches in his arsenal, that most of the time, aren't needed. Most closers in the game have 2, maybe 3 solid/good/great pitches to get guys out with. (unless your name is Mariano, but he is a freak) He would have been perfectly fine (probably one of the best in the game) if he was still throwing 98+ with that 12 to 6 curve. And if he really wanted to add a third pitch, a change-up would be been more than good enough. You don't need a cutter, slider, sinker, etc.. in your arsenal as a closer. Mariano Rivera throws 1 pitch 9.5 out of 10 times and gets hitters out even when they know it's comming. Billy Wagner had a 99+ mph fastball he threw 8 out of 10 times and a slider. Trevor Hoffman, in his prime, had a 96+ mph fastball and one of the best change-ups this game has ever seen, and when he got old, he had a 85-87 mph fastball and one of the best change-ups this game has ever seen.

QUOTE (MurcieOne @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 9:22 PM) That is why he is the GOAT. That was Larry Bird's quote four days ago. This is what these guys the greatest. They would rather beat you then join you. Hell even Kobe has that in him which is why his name is in that discussion as well. (besides the rings) Look at his situation about three years back. He wasn't happy with LA and felt they couldn't put the pieces to win. But did Kobe say hey trade me to Cleveland with LBJ or Miami with Wade? No. He wanted to go to a team with nice pieces, but a place where it was still his team. Where he was still "the man."

QUOTE (T R U @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 07:51 PM) I still love them both You love everybody that people hate. Don't know if that is coincidence, or you just enjoy getting a rise out of people. I believe the only guy you and me always agree on loving is Barry Bonds. (might be one more guy, but I can't remember)

Here are the rest of the box scores since Joe did such a terrible job putting them up. I'll post all the starters performances and one position prospect performance. Birmingham McCulloch: 5 IP 8 H 5 R 5 ER 0 BB 3 SO Escobar 2-4, 2B, RBI, K Kanny (Game 1) *ended in 7 innings* Collop: 7 IP 6 H 1 R 1 ER 0 BB 7 SO Hamme 1-2, HR, RBI, R, K Kanny (Game 2) *ended in 7 innings* Rienzo: 7 IP 4 H 0 R 0 ER 2 BB 5 SO Saladino 2-2, BB, 2 R, SB Great Falls Holmberg: 5 IP 6 H 0 R 0 ER 1 BB 5 SO Wilkins 2-4 HR, 4 RBI, R, BB, K Bristol Casey: 4 IP 6 H 6 R 5 ER 0 BB 2 SO Cummings 3-4, RBI, R, K

Really felt Santos when they told him he made it. BTW, Dan Hudson is really a nice, professional kid handling that. Good to see he is up anyway couple months later.

http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?sh...576&st=6990 That is what I believe has happened. BTW go to that same thread and go back about 20+ pages or so (during the FA frenzy) and that will explain the "RIP" thing on my sig. He still post on the talkbulls. (in fact he was posting there a couple days ago)

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 04:29 PM) He did us a favor...a quick death. Fathom FTW! Santos might have inflated his era even more with the next hitter.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 04:31 PM) Can somebody shoot me a PM when greg gets on? If he f***ing defends that fat f*** I'm gonna lose it. I don't want to get banned. I think you are letting that little timeout effect your brain. Let it go bro. I don't like nor want to see you constricted of your posting style cause of something as irrelevant as that was. Don't make them change you as a poster I enjoy reading.

Man I missed the entire game (minus Young's GW single, error) and I see we lost a heartbreaker. One positive I can take with what I see out of the box score is Beckham went 4-4 and is hitting very well now. If he and Quentin can continue to get going, that is good news for us. And please everyone take it easy on Greg/Jenks.... and Greg take it easy on the 05 slurping of Jenks today... thanks.

Alexei.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 17, 2010 -> 10:38 PM) I'm going to be pissed off if Josh Johnson doesn't win the CY. Amazing how well he's pitched and the season he's had when you really analyze his numbers. Everyone was pretty much handing Ubaldo Jimenez the Cy Young all season. He could still get it, but as of right now, Johnson is my pick.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 17, 2010 -> 07:09 PM) James Gammon, who played manager Lou Brown in the "Major League" movies, died today at age 70.

W-S had 23 hits, was 8-17 with RISP and still loss. Bellamy had to come in early (Shirek struggled) and went 2.0 IP 2 H 1 R 1 ER 2 BB 1 SO in his Barons debut.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 17, 2010 -> 04:50 PM) Man, I ain't talkin' to you until you get rid of that dumbass name. No dice. (unless Reed is released or somethin) Gotta keep the nig's name on here which was my original (luckily, I'm not one of those posters who makes like 5 different names here) name to begin with until he's out the org again. Then, I'll go back to Ace.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 17, 2010 -> 03:42 PM) How is that possible? Dude..... THE CATCH!!!LOLZOMFGZLMFAOZ!

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 17, 2010 -> 03:40 PM) You should read qwerty's breakdown of why he doesn't think Sergio Santos will be all that good for the long-term. I don't agree with all of it. But it was an excellent analysis. I wish the damn search function worked. I still remember his find on hitter's protection in the lineup. (and if there really is "protection") Just outstanding stuff. There is a reason I call him "Kalapse BEFORE Kalapse" back in the golden years of ST. One of my personal favorite posters here when he actually does post. Now that I'm done stroking his ego, the guy really needs to loosen up, not be so serious, and crack a smile more often. Kal at least kills posters with kindness when he makes points.

Quentin. If he doesn't play, Konerko.

Might have to start a Gordon Beckham watch soon. Don't wanna jinx the kid, but he's been swinging the stick very good the past few games.

QUOTE (qwerty @ Jul 17, 2010 -> 09:52 AM) Yes, the only thing missing was a ''crazy yet informal/long read (which no one even bothers reading so i have given up even trying). What i take from that (too long of a read/what they are reading is foreign to them) is people either have extremely short attention spans, or they lack the interest it takes to learn, for it to no longer be foreign to them. Anyway, if you would like to learn some very cool things sometime soon... things i have learned from scouring the deep depths of the internet... make sure to stop by the chat during the mariners series if you can. I'm sure you would end up teaching kalapse and myself a thing or two also, which you undoubtedly would. I say this because you really do have a hang of what your saying. It's a nice change of pace. The offer is out there... it could be fun. I've read a couple of your things bro in the past and it is very good stuff when people take the time. More or less just kiddin around with ya, but I'm sure most posters just skip over it (I don't read EVERY site you put up, cept the ones I'm curious on myself) BTW, I told you guys chw42 was an underrated poster.