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QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Oct 13, 2016 -> 12:03 AM) If you could get Moncada, Benintendi, Kopech and Swihart for Sale and Melky, do you do it? If I'm Boston, I'm asking for Nate Jones instead of Melky

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 12:51 PM) The flaw in his logic is he bases things based upon surplus value and the surplus value for an unrpoven player is significantly overrated in his model as it doesn't not seem to account for "bust factor" probability and seems far more focused on ascribing a surplus value based more on the ceiling vs. anything else. As a result, you include one top 10 prospect and the "surplus" value damn near equates to Sale (which for all the reasons I said above, clearly should make damn near zero plausible sense). He's right it's an overpay, but it's how the market is right now. Look at the haul NYY got for 2 months of Chapman and 2 yrs/ 2 mos of Miller. That overshot his formula as well.

I'll take Blackmon and McGee from the Rockies and Norris from the Padres. All fit nicely into the 2016-2017 plan. Anderson Eaton Abreu Cabrera Frazier Blackmon Lawrie Morneau Norris

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ May 13, 2016 -> 11:17 AM) EJ, Danish, and Beck maybe? Swihart is one of the top catching prospects in baseball. I wouldn't ask for anything less than Rodon if I were them.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ May 3, 2016 -> 11:29 AM) I'd love if the Sox added Lincecum This has White Sox dumpster diving signing written all over it. I still like Cashner from SD. If you take Kemp or Melvin Jr (plus $), it probably wouldn't cost you much prospect wise. The #5 pitcher is concerning to me, not because Danks sucks but because of expected regression from Latos and Rodon is good but still young.

Time for a Redsox/Dodgers Blue Jays/Marlins roster swap Sox Get: Inciarte, Teheran, Markakis, Aybar Braves Get: Danks, LaRoche, Fullmer, Danish, Engel, Garcia, Sanchez Sox Get: Segura, Braun, Will Smith, Jimmy Nelson, $ Brewers Get: Anderson, Adams, Sanchez, Danks, Garcia, couple other prospects

I don't know why everyone sells Desmond so short. His down year was Cespedes's average year before 2015. He plays a premium position and could move to 3b, 2b, or the OF later.

Danks, Engel, Spencer Adams and Avasail Garcia for Braun and Peralta.

QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 21, 2015 -> 11:48 AM) no way..... that will negate all the good work that was done. Yeah, I posted that before I looked into Fernendez. I knew he had TJ but didn't realize he was such a health risk. I'd keep Rodon over Fernandez. I'd still like Ozuna somehow though.

Marcell Ozuna. Rodon, Anderson, Garcia and a couple other prospects for Fernandez and Ozuna.

QUOTE (PorkChopExpress @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 12:16 PM) Shelby Miller is 25 years old. He has had three solid years, not just one good year. He is arb eligible for the first time in 2016 and isn't a FA until 2019. He is also a pitcher, which some teams value a bit higher than position players. He was drafted by St. Louis in the first round, which has value right there ( ). He had a lot of value. AZ may have overpaid, but not by that much, and we don't know what others were offering for Miller, so who's to say the market didn't determine the cost. What would you have asked for from them for Quintana? Pollock +

QUOTE (PorkChopExpress @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 11:45 AM) More like Robertson, Garcia and a top 5 prospect (and probably more) for Lamb and Peralta. Lamb is young, good and under team control until 2021. He's not even arb eligible until 2018. Peralta is a stud and also under team control until 2021 and not arb eligible until 2018. Robertson may still have value, but how much is debatable. Garcia has no value right now other than as a prospect. If you want Lamb and Peralta, you're deal will involve Quintana. You guys are talking about a team that just gave up a 3WAR player and two of their top 4 prospects, including the #1 draft pick for SHELBY MILLER, who has had one year of success. You are giving AZ too much credit if you ask me. Peralta is 28 and has had one good year. You can't even argue WAR either because from a WAR perspective Miller = Inciarte. If you are talking value, Inciarte > Miller because he has more years of control.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 11:43 AM) The DBacks wouldn't trade Peralta for any young Indians' starter (Kluber isn't available). 5-ish WAR, high OBP, young/cost-controlled, they would ask for a lot more than Robertson and Avi would be totally useless in that huge outfield. Undoubtely Quintana or Anderson/Fulmer for Peralta. Why wouldn't they simply have signed KRod and subsequently have kept Peralta, Pollock and Tomas as their OF if closer was really their top priority? Peralta's high WAR was 3.7, which to your point is still asking a lot. But they just gave a lot for Miller, so I'm willing to risk asking a lot.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 11:01 AM) I like the Name Lamb idea. What does AZ need that the Sox could send their way in a trade if Lamb is available? AZ is in win now mode and needs bullpen help. The closer market is hot right now so I'd offer Robertson and Garcia for Lamb, Peralta and a top 5 prospect. We'd have to replace Robertson but we'd also free up $13m that could be used to dump Laroche and sign Upton or Cespedes.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 10:57 AM) But not a plan that you can easily sell as seriously competing this season... If you land Upton, Gordon or Cespedes it does. I think at this point the Sox fans care more about the standings than the headlines. The Lamb deal won't get much attention in the headlines but it's a much more sustainable long term approach than two years of Frazier, IMO.

I want Jake Lamb. Sounds like he could be had with Drury able to take his place.

It's hard for me to imagine the Sox giving $100m to a pitcher.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Dec 30, 2014 -> 09:07 AM) Notes http://t.co/wzh3qMV3cf Rios turned down trade to #Royals last July #Rangers. Drew’s market #bluejays #athletics #cubs #whitesox https://twitter.com/Joelsherman1/status/549918090528845825 I read that as the White Sox being a match because of their need for backup SS and 2B, not that they are actively engaged.

I'm fine with Danks and Noesi at 4/5. Anyone else you get at this point is going to be just as much of a risk. I think Noesi could have a solid year. He had to overcome a lot last year to pitch 170 innings. He was dumped by two teams, pitched out of the bullpen then started the rest of the year. I think he has three good pitches and with a little vote of confidence could be a great pickup.

White Sox trade Quintana and Ramirez to Dodgers for Urias, Saeger, Pederson and Zach Lee

Pederson and Ethier for Montas and Ramirez straight up. Sox get their LF and DH (that can play all 3 OF positions). LAD dumps Ethier, unclogs their OF, gets a SS and a prospect with surplus value.

Jake Diekman

If you trade Ramirez, who plays SS?

The only person I'd consider for more than 2 years is Headley. The rest are on the wrong side of 30 or aren't anything special. Martin projects more like a 2 WAR player, which is what Tyler Flowers is. I'd try to find a right handed starter that you can either extend (trade market) or a 1/2 year stop gap via free agency (Peavy, McCarthy, etc). I'd prefer financial flexibility over a free agent gamble. As the Yankees have proven year over year, buying players doesn't translate to winning. They went nuts last year and didn't even make the playoffs.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Aug 12, 2014 -> 12:21 PM) I created this thread about Alvarez. I'd love him as the primary DH next year and he could spell Abreu at 1B from time to time. I'd never trade Quintana for him though. Not a chance. Hopefully they could match up another way. Acquiring a player that only has value at DH or 1B doesn't make much sense to me. I'd much rather see someone that can play 3B/1B/DH (Gillaspie/Davidson) or CA/DH/1B (Victor Martinez) or OF/DH. That provides your team with much more depth and flexibility.