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I'm not so sure we should be in a hurry to move Rameriz from SS. Between the two, I don't think we can say Beckham would fare better there.

QUOTE (BearSox @ Mar 14, 2009 -> 03:40 PM) I'll go on the record and say that Getz would be a better leadoff man then both Wise and Owens. Getz actually makes a ton of sense. Doesn't K much, has a great eye and can walk, has above average speed, and is a gap-to-gap line drive hitter. That's a lot of pressure for a young kid, but if Ozzie went that direction, and it resulted in Anderson in CF, I'd be for it. Still wouldn't make Edmonds a better option for us... Wise right now is earning the spot, so I have no problem breaking camp if his results continue. It's not like you couldn't adjust if he starts to struggle.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 14, 2009 -> 02:54 PM) Edmonds could be a nice stopgap. Wise isn't a lead off hitter and really Owens isn't either. Edmonds isn't the CF he used to be, but he is still better defensively than Wise, and throws much better than Owens, and is an upgrade of the Ken Griffey Jr. statue they set up in CF the second half of 2008. As far as rejecting coming to the White Sox before, he said he was given just a little window to make up his mind and didn't want to rush so he had to say no. I really think if KW was going to sign him, he would have been signed by now. He supposedly is high maintenence. KW and I agree the best of the 3 is BA, but either Ozzie doesn't agree or he believes the CF must be a guy batting first. Ozzie understands the need for it to be that way unless you leadoff with Getz. What other choice does he have for a leadoff man?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 14, 2009 -> 12:53 AM) As long as they don't neglect the pitching I don't see KW ignoring pitching

QUOTE (chisox2334 @ Mar 14, 2009 -> 01:31 PM) same guy reject trade last yr to sox and then we got swisher Plus it wouldn't make sense. Wise has an upper hand because he's hitting well but also because he can leadoff potentially. Otherwise why not just plug in Anderson? Edmonds isn't needed...

QUOTE (forrestg @ Feb 9, 2009 -> 12:38 PM) Wilson Betemit is listed as a first baseman. True first baseman

we don't have a backup first baseman, so it actually makes sense.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 5, 2009 -> 10:10 AM) Joe Crede gave the White Sox 1 crucial month in the 2005 season. You know who else did? Frank Thomas. He got b****ed out, and his agent isn't even Boras! What's a brother gotta do. Not complain about everything... And I do like FT

QUOTE (TheBigHurt @ Feb 5, 2009 -> 07:10 AM) IMO the only one who sounds stupid in that quote is KW. Not about Crede, but that defense of Colon is hilarious. If Garland outperforms a healthy Colon, it will only be attributed to his transfer to the NL.

QUOTE (longshot7 @ Jan 27, 2009 -> 01:13 AM) I think Gardy has something against Rock Paper Scissors. I'm so offended. Although I agree it isn't the best way to determine this, it isn't as if they missed the playoffs to a coin flip. They lost home field advantage, and proceeded to lose the game. They had their chance still...

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 12, 2009 -> 01:08 AM) Marti would definitely be in the mix for the 4th/5th starter's spot. Even though he won't blow anyone away, he definitely would be the favorite I think if the White Sox were to sign him as of today. As far as Gomez, don't think we'd have much interest in him at all...the other kid Torres had earlier, CF Fernando Perez (who worked out with Viciedo at his famous tryout in the DR) would be a much more interesting sign than Gomez, fwiw, because he's still only 20. In this case, it may be better that he's more seasoned with Jordan Danks being groomed for the spot.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 19, 2008 -> 03:34 AM) If we go by this 33% paycut theory, Garland would be at $8 million next season, Orlando Cabrera at $6,666.667 and Bobby Abreu at $10.7 million. We'll have to wait and see how close that is. Besides Garland, would anyone take either Cabrera or Abreu at those salaries for 2009? Sounds like bargain deals, but it's hard to say, no one really knows what kind of budget we have. I believe KW said we're at the upper limits, despite our cost cutting moves.

Currently, this is how I see the lineup. Lillibridge/Owens CF Rameriz SS Quentin LF Thome DH Dye RF Konerko 1B AJ C Fields 3rd Getz 2nd I'm just guessing, but I can see Lillibridge winning some time in CF and taking on lefties.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Dec 12, 2008 -> 10:31 PM) if asked to pick right now, i wonder who the prognosticators would pick to win the AL CENTRAL in '09. My guess is that it will be CLE again. Sizemore and company, Lee, now Wood. A healthy Hafner (maybe). Well, division wagers aren't posted yet, but for the 09 AL pennant Sox, Indians, and Tigers are tied at +1100, with the Twins at a very slight favor at +1000.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 13, 2008 -> 03:50 PM) I don't think Miles is a target or should be, but if these other guys are more versatile, it would be an upset. Miles played 2b,ss,3b,lf,rf,cf and p last season. What, no catcher or first base mit? Ha

Scott Proctor-R- Dodgers Dec. 12 - 9:31 pm et Dodgers non-tendered RHP Scott Proctor. Proctor finally broke down last season and underwent elbow surgery after the season. He's expected to be ready for spring training, but it looks like he'll finally escape Joe Torre's grasp. Yhency Brazoban-R- Dodgers Dec. 12 - 9:30 pm et Dodgers non-tendered RHP Yhency Brazoban. Brazoban, once looked at as a potential closer, has battled shoulder problems since returning from Tommy John surgery in 2007 and now looks like a long shot to have much of a career as a reliever. Then again, it could help that the lack of a paycheck will force him to cut back on junk food. Yes and yes if they could be signed to cheap/minor league deals. Potential depth, or nothing. I'm good with rolling the dice with these two.

QUOTE (DBAHO @ Dec 9, 2008 -> 10:36 PM) Well, would you say Dye's on his 3 year organizational board? He has 1 year left on his deal, with an option for 2010, and I doubt he'd stick around after that. You have to remember, the overall package for Swisher was what a lot of people thought was "weak" (but let's wait til Marquez learns a cutter before we pass judgement). Maybe the Sox's financial issues are so bad, that they have to dump Dye's contract, because other teams won't trade for Konerko or Thome. Hence, they may take a little less in prospects than what is considered fair I guess (or at least KW targets guys who aren't as highly rated as what he thinks). I don't think so, we've already shedded a lot of payroll. Also KW said we are good shape with payroll, and are in no dire need to trade Dye. He even said he wants his guys looking for possible fits that make us better from a prospect standpoint, but also with veteran FA's.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 9, 2008 -> 12:10 PM) Considering KW's MO is "under the radar", Dye's availability and rumored destinations have been anything but. KW said he considered JD a friend and respects him greatly, I just wonder why he'd have him twisting like that. Its kind of strange. Maybe they are talking about it, and we're the one's in the dark?

QUOTE (Jimmywins1 @ Dec 8, 2008 -> 03:36 AM) You're thinking the guy from the Cardinals, this is a totally different player. Got ya - thanks

QUOTE (daa84 @ Dec 8, 2008 -> 03:33 AM) dude on WSI says rumor says that encarnacion is in on the deal but we may have to pay half JDs salary...take that FWIW...which is probably very little Isn't that guy done? I think his eye injury ended his playing days forever...

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Dec 8, 2008 -> 03:30 AM) If the Sox can afford it, I can live with it though I'd rather the Sox move Quentin back to his natural position of RF in hopes that his defense improves from last year. Quentin would no doubt, they wouldn't stick Abreu there over him.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 7, 2008 -> 12:38 PM) A rival GM revealed weeks ago the White Sox were shopping every decent-sized contract they had (and maybe he wasn’t exaggerating that much), and so far Kenny Williams has traded away Nick Swisher and Javier Vazquez, or almost $17 million off 2009 alone. from yahoosports.com That sounds like an exaggeration, I surely doubt MB or AJ were shopped. We don't even have a backup catcher, let alone someone to start everyday besides AJ. Sounds farfetched, even coming from "a rival GM."

Let's see how that would look potentially: Furcal SS Rameriz CF Quentin RF Thome DH Konerko 1B AJ C Fields 3rd Dayan LF Getz 2nd Or if Getz could somehow emerge as a solid 2 hole hitter, that would create some flexibility as well.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Dec 5, 2008 -> 07:16 PM) The thing is, in Kenny’s mind the team doesn’t have those holes. He seems to more than satisfied with the pool of Richard, Poreda, Marquez, Carrasco, Broadway, Egbert, and Van Benschoten for the 4 and 5 spots. He also seems to think that, Owens, Getz and Lillibridge will me more than enough depth for the leadoff spot. Frankly, I don’t blame him occasionally you have to throw a couple guys against the wall and see who sticks. I don't believe KW is ever more than satisfied... Especially with the team as it stands. Maybe he isn't able to do anything else, but he's not satisfied.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 5, 2008 -> 09:07 PM) What other MI would they want from us? We have a glut of failed prospects (lilli, Nix) and a average at best spect (Getz). If we want another team's star MI, the discussions on their side IMO begin and end with Alexei. Thats what I would ask for if I was the O's. Roberts is a better all around player than Alexei, but Alexei has upside. Classic spect-for-star deal. You would ship off our starting SS, making a 1 million a year for the next three years, for one year of BR? That's not a classic spect-for-star deal... One, Alexi proved himself last year that he can play in the MLB at a high level, and two, that would be just dumb.