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That's rough.

I'd do that.

Good idea. I wonder what it would take? Sox are still sorely lacking in OF prospects.

True. But I think they keep working with him. As palette, Coffey and others start to come up his role will be diminished.

Jenkins wasnt until later in the season. First it was Takatsu (the frisbee) them hermannson, who both got hurt. They brought Jenks up from the minors into a playoff run.

With his stuff, I think he gets a longer leash.

I would think so. I cant imagine its much more than 80.

I agree. The fact that they were able to see crochet as a starter and pursue it, makes me give them the benefit of the doubt that Taylor isn't suited to it at this point.

I said that's what they are saying by their research. This is a new one for me. But it makes sense physiologically. Bannister said looking at pitchers with that extension profile most are better suited to relief and can't handle a starter load. He didn't say that it was an exhaustive list. He gave examples.

Possible. Bit let's look at how crochet did it. He had a year off rehabbing to turn into a starter. Taylor will not have that. Taylor also has pitches even less than crochet. I would prefer they continue to allow him to start. But we dont know how his arm was responding after even just 3 inning starts. I understand thier reasons and plan.

There are always outliers. Look at the stats as a whole. It's not sayingbit cant happened but what are the odds. Taylor has had 75 innings pitched since high school. Hiw long will it take to build up to 180 inning work load. 3 years?

One thing they all have in common is they are all in the bullpen. One is on the 60 day IL.

This is not about 100% correlation. This is about looking at the trends and what the probability is. Just like with variables with UCL injuries, we know they are certain things that are risk factors for certain injuries. For example elbow angle and ball distance from the pitchers head have a high correlation to UCL injuries. The medical system is built on Clinical prediction rules and models that show us probabilities and likelihood. This is a new one on me but as I stated in a previous post it makes physiologic sense. I dont blame them from being conservative with it. Just like with all of the other discussion it not an all or nothing discussion. This isn't saying this one thing will 100% cause another. It's about the probability and likelihood of something happening.

And where was the biommechics facilty to test the data? Theory is one thing, practical apocation is another.

Picking only 2 out of the list is more of the cherry picking. Look at all the others. The 2 you picked are the outliers. There's no guarantee they are right but the numbers are in their favor, especially considering the injuries Grant has already suffered. Maybe those two can handle it. Grant has already struggled with it. I dont blame them for being conservative. Everyone would prefer that he would be a starter. They even tried earlier this year.

Doesn't sound like he had much control of players then. He has been acquiring a very different type of player. Either that or he learned what wasn't working.

Don't forget Adams, I think he has a chance as well.

That's the interview. I heard part if it in a podcast.

I would go with when he started acquiring players and reshaping the organization.

Brian Bannister had an interesting interview discussion about him. One thing that caught my attention was that one of the things that makes him so good is hie elite extension. Very few pitchers have that. In fact anyone who has it profiles as a reliever because starters with it are always injured. He used the example of Glasnow. Physiologically it makes sense. Muscles have a very small range where they can generate enough force to be useful. Its called the length-tension relationship. If the muscle tries to work at a length that is too short or too long they cant generate enough force so cramps and injuries are more common. If he is working at a longer muscle length with the tremendous extension, it could cause more injuries. Thus why pitchers with elite extension have difficulty with a starters load.

With the lack of monetary resources that JR provides the only way to have a consistent competitive team is through the draft an development. This takes time. They could try to shortcut it like Hahn did. He did field a competitive team that made the playoffs. However once those players either got hurt or became ineffective there were no other players behind them.

Listening to a podcast about Vaughn and discussing his poor performance at 1B, got the thinking, I know dangerous. I wonder if the OF experiment was less about the Sox needing an OF and more about them knowing he was a bad 1B and seeing if he could handle OF.

It's not having it both ways. I'm not projecting my bias on to what other ARE thinking like stated people are popping champagne because they say there is progress. I'm saying I cant understand why people don't understand the concept of progress from one year to the next. I'm not saying what they are thinking. I'm cant understand what they are thinking. It's process vs. knowing. Because its a fact that this team is better than last year. Very small amount, they are still bad but they are better. A better discussion would be, "they are showing progress but I'm not happy with the speed of the progress."

To each his own.