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I'll stick with the under.

Grifol could call a team meeting and zero players might show. That's how little leadership I think he has.

I'm not expecting us to contend for the playoffs til probably 2030......But I want to see some improvement next season. Back to back years with 30-35 wins could be unwatchable.

Whats realistic for the start of the rebuild next season? If we get a new manager and add a couple of mid level starters, can we reach 45 wins? 50 wins? I don't see more than 30 this year, so is a 50-65% improvement realistic or do you expect more?

Bevington was 10x the manager that Grifol is.....and that is no compliment. I would take Carrot Top, Screech, or Pee Wee Herman over either of this imbecibles.

A replacement was needed 2 years ago (before he ever managed his first game)

Going 61-101 with this years team may have been acceptable. Having that record with last years team was not. And losing 120+ games this year with this crappy roster is still not. He's the worst manager in the history of MLB and its not questionable.

Unless positive changes happen midseason, I really think 35-40 wins is our max for this year. Its not possible for a team with no hitting, no pitching, and the worst manager in the history of baseball to do any better.

As long as Grifol is around, we will never be competitive. It just depends when Reinsdorf is ready to bite the bullet on this horrible hire. Bring back Ozzie.

I'm guessing 35 wins....40 if the team over performs. With a roster of below average talent and the worst manager in MLB, this is realistic expectations.

A stripper pole in every section and 1000 entertainers working them. Make it the largest gentlemens club in the country and every game will be sold out.

Just bring back Hawk!

I don't care who takes the field as long as Grifol is manager. We will never win with him as the leader so I'm just waiting for the day he is fired so I can be enthusiastic about the Sox once again.

I hope you are right about Pedro but Nightengale is reporting otherwise and i doubt JR wants to pay for 2 years of him golfing.

Hawk Harrelson and Tony LaRussa replace Hahn and Williams! (I seriously hope not....but you never know what JR will do!)

If Jerry hasn't seen enough already this season to let a new GM show Pedro the door, another 65 win season isn't going to do the job. He's either gone come October or he'll be around at least 2 more seasons to fulfill his contract.

I won't be back until Grifol is gone. His performance this season has made us all forget how bad Tony LaRussa was last year.

This blows any chance of obtaining a good GM. No one is going to want this idiot leading a club they assemble. It will never win.

Middleton should get a standing ovation if he comes into a game this week. We obviosly knew much of this already but fans saying this wasnt going to change anything. Now that a former player of ours has brought this to the forefront, may e some changes will happen to this organization in the offseason. Than you Kenyan for being one player here who had a desire to win.

If we arent going to fire Grifol anytime soon (and if we havent by now, we arent going to do so) trade anyone with value for prospects and maybe we can contend in 2030

This season has been disappointing....no doubt about it. However, I still believe in the talent. I think the coaching is the problem. Blow up the staff and bring in a new manager, hitting coach, and pitching coach. Bad leadership is a recipe for disaster no matter how good the team is and we have a clown show leading our team.

Have the teams hop on a plane and move the games to Chicago or a neutral site like Las Vegas

Probably not getting fired. That’s why I’ve written off this season and cancelled my plans to travel from Vegas for a series in 2023. Hope springs eternal for 2024 though…..although if Grifol is allowed to finish his contract, I may just wait to see a game in person when the Sox visit the Las Vegas A’s in the future.

This team needs a manager that would hold players accountable and get them to play with emotion. We had the opportunity to rehire Ozzie in the offseason and he would have been perfect. Instead, we hired a younger clone of LaRussa (who is producing the same lackluster results)

First and foremost, this news really sucks and all our thoughts and prayers should be with Liam. I know he's a fighter and am confident he can kick cancer's ass and be back as a dominant closer. On a secondary note, if he's missing the season, do we have an insurance policy that covers his contract? If so, let's hope we spend this $18 million on other improvements to the team and not just put it in Jerry's pocket. If nothing else, let's donate these funds to the American Cancer Society. Get well soon Liam. We'll be praying for you!