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I don't know if anyone has said it yet or not, but could this be our magic, never-say-die moment that propells this team to finally enjoy themselves and kick this s*** into high gear?

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Sep 8, 2006 -> 02:49 PM) I don't know if the facts truly back that up. India and Pakistan first went to war right after partition, in the late 40's, just like the Middle East, and that was followed up by another full scale war between India and Pakistan in 1965 and another one in 1971. There was also a war in 1962 between India and China. The thing that has prevented a lot of the "full scale wars" we've seen in the Middle East from happening since the 70s is, IMO, the bomb, which India first developed in the 70's (they tested a "Peaceful nuclear device, whatever the Hell that is) and Pakistan developed sometime afterwards. Unlike Israel, which has no one who can counter them if they strike, India and Pakistan can only go so far militarily any more without tens of millions of people vaporizing. Israel for 25 years has been able to strike at anyone with impunity, because no one can strike back and defeat them. After the partitian the wars were basically over and in the Kashmir region. There really hasn't been a full scale attack or invasion of the countries outside of the disputed regions. The 1971 war was more over Bengledesh, and trying to secure their freedom from Pakistan than anything else, more to free up one of its borders from a mortal enemy. This war only lasted about two weeks.

The stories of the flights from/to Pakistan after the partitician and the history of the immediately after are amazing. Lots of their history paralells the history of Israel, as a country was just carved out of somewhere that wasn't there before, and then the human flight of people trying to get where they wanted to be. Much of the history of violence, hatred and nearly perpetual war also seems to follow the history of the middle east. I think the one difference is that in this case the big difference is that India just has more human power and sheer size than Israel, which doesn't allow for full scale wars that we routinely see in the middle east. I also believe that India has been much luckier in the peaceful leaders they have seen over the years, all though I think part of that goes back to the ability to overwealm an enemy that India naturally posesses. The problem in my eyes is that the underlaying cause of violence is religious and not purely political in my eyes, which means it will never truely go away. I think it is each countries best long term interests to simply ignore each other, but fringe groups, mostly from the fundementalist Islamic side, won't allow this to happen.

http://www.michigancityin.com/articles/200.../08/news/n5.txt

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Sep 8, 2006 -> 01:48 PM) Why do people think Sweeney is a natural CF? He's passable out there, and better than Rob, but he's much better suited for the corners.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Sep 8, 2006 -> 01:00 PM) Do people think Sean Tracey has any chance of taking over BMac's role next year? (We'd still need a righty to replace Riske...but we might be able to pull that off by dealing Cotts) Right now I think Chuckie Haegar has moved quietly ahead of one Sean Tracey on the depth chart. I think the team likes his vercitility and the fact that he gives a great contrast to all of the hard throwers in the pen. Can you imagine trying to hit that knuckleball then trying to hit Mike McDougall, Matt Thornton, and/or Bobby Jenks after that? Brrrr.

QUOTE(irishsoxer @ Sep 6, 2006 -> 12:02 AM) Anderson will not be a Sox within 2 years -book it. He has had ample opps to prove himself -come on all you man crushers, he just doesnt have what it takes. QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Sep 6, 2006 -> 12:08 AM) Joe Crede says hi [RobinVenturarollsoverinhisretirement]

TalkBears game thread link Feel free to jump in and get excited about some pigskin, rivalry style.

QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Sep 8, 2006 -> 12:23 PM) These guys are tired. Tired, tired, tired. they don't need to be shipped out, they need to be coddled in the off-season. Relax and recharge. There will be an upgrade in LF and there will be one pitcher gone. After that, I think the Ryan Sweeney era has begun in CF. Tired mentally as well as physically. Having the bullseye on your back every night takes a lot out of you.

I also wanted to throw out there that the one consistancy during Williams time as GM, is that there are always big deals done in the offseason, and way before the trade deadline. There will be some change during this off-season, I have no doubt about it.

QUOTE(knightni @ Sep 8, 2006 -> 11:47 AM) Wow, vague Eddie Murphy sketch. ^ Very nicely played

Here are the letters from the Willis parents which the judge refused to allow to be read into public record, or for George Ryan to hear. The judge read them in private.

QUOTE(mreye @ Sep 8, 2006 -> 10:20 AM) This coming from someone with 42,000+ posts on a White Sox message board. Which makes me an expert on obsessed, thank you very much

Wow. All of this obcession over a myspace/Youtube poster? Yikes.

Its pretty obvious, at least to me, that the whole Buehrle problem is his back. Give the guy a winter of rest and strengthening work, and he will be fine. With a stiff back he isn't able to finish any of his pitches and the net effect is that there is not enough of a difference between his change and his fastball, which makes them too close to the same speed, and it makes it much easier to adjust to one if you are looking for the other. When MB was consistantly 90-92 on his fastball and 78-80 on his change, it is much harder to adjust than when his FB is around 85-88. The other thing with his back problem is that because he can't get the good extension to finish his pitches everything is being left up high, where Buehrle is merely mortal as a pitcher. he doesn't have the prue stuff to pitch up in the zone, and he knows it. Quit jumping off of the bandwagon, the kid is going to be back in Chicago next year, and he will be just fine.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 8, 2006 -> 08:29 AM) OK so, you have to be more direct here. What are you implying? I can think of a few different possibilities, and I am curious which you mean. Some of the conspiracy BS actually goes as far as to say that a plane didn't even hit the WTC...

Not a doubt in my mind, I would get help before doing it, or I wouldn't do it.

I wonder how the CIA got Bin Laden to cooperate so well?

It is incredible that Hermanson is back pitching again. I am in shock.

Kinky doesn't want 1500 border patrol troops, he wants 10,000 Texas national guard troops guarding the border

not.a.chance.

QUOTE(SinkingShip06 @ Sep 8, 2006 -> 12:31 AM) YES! the judge and jury are out again. I'm sorry i'm inferior to you based on your own whacked scale. If anyone gets upset at this team for being inconsistant and just not making that all important "run," they have not been watching. It's the story of the season. Some highs, mostly lows. And BTW didn't a moderator just break this sites ZERO TOLERENCE policy of personal attacks? SWEET! So who were you before you got banned?

QUOTE(Cuck the Fubs @ Sep 7, 2006 -> 02:34 PM) That must really suck for him. Will he get playoff shares from the Tigers if they're in?? Only if his teammates vote to give him one.

http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/ryan31.html

Hermanson and Owens are able to be added. I am not sure how Logan or someone like that would work for sure, but I believe someone else actually would have to go onto the DL for someone who was not on the 25 man, or on the DL at the deadline.