Dick Allen

I don't know if it's a good thing to leak out that your offer was higher, or bad that the higher offer was blown off.

I did mention earlier location could mean the Sox need to be a bit higher than Philly. I thought he lived in GA, didn't know the NJ angle, but enough money or first class airline tickets could fix that. One thing is for certain, the White Sox are not quite yet the destination RH claimed in his end of the season address.

Again, if the White Sox are searching for bargains in modern day free agency, they won't be plucking players from the top of the list.

Somewhere KW is wearing sunglasses to hide the shock players actually pick more money, and don't find a team where the Chicago Tribune didn't even have a beat writer covering most of the time, THE destination.

Cash is king. 2nd place again. When is the annual participation trophy ceremony? It's $10 million over 5 years. If that hampers their efforts they might as well start trading the Moncadas and Giolitos now.

Do you think the Sox will be willing to go where the Nats went with Corbin?

That's weird. An hour ago you used his tweets as a source to try to prove yourself correct, as proof that the Phillies are in on "everyone" again.

The White Sox have tried landing guys not offering the most money. If you were a player, what is it about Rick Hahn's resume that would make you think there is an excellent chance at sustained winning? The Reds haven't been very good lately either, but unless you are a White Sox fan, there isn't a lot to buy into yet.

8 years ago.

That is true. It's about time someone comes out of nowhere and becomes a huge contributor.

Hamels did put up a 2.5 WAR last year missing 4 or 5 starts. It's not really an overpay. It's more than he would have received if the situation was the exact same as the last couple of years, but $18 million for one year isn't that bad.

Anyone could have signed them to a minimum contract. They won't be claimed, and even if they were, who cares?

They definitely will sign someone else to pitch. Since they have basically officially called off the rebuild and are trying to win is going to make them add.

They also spent about $400 million last winter.

The point you made was that the Phillies were all bluster. You were wrong again.

They went to Harper over Machado. They traded for Segura, and spent $50 million guaranteed on McCutcheon. If he gets the 4th year team option, he's pretty close to the largest contract in White Sox history, and he's totally forgotten. Now they are in on Wheeler. If the Sox signed Harper, do you think they would shopping in the clearance aisle right now. If that's bluster, i'll take it over being stunned a player thought $50 million more guaranteed was a better deal.

They haven't said anything like that this year. Olney is the one who said they are frontrunners.

How much did they pay for Harper?

The one thing I am worried about, just like when they signed Robert, it "checked off" one of Rick's boxes. Once that got checked off, they got back to where they always were internationally. Now they get Grandal and apparently checked off another of his infamous boxes. I hope that doesn't mean back to comfortable second place finishes for good free agents.

Not yet, but maybe in a few years. I remember in 2005 I said to myself, just let them win the WS, I won't care if they suck for a decade. I cared.

If the money is similar, a lot of them do. It's one reason a lot of players live the offseason near the spring training facility. Workout facilities during the winter and an extra 6 weeks at home in the spring.

One other thing to keep in mind...the Phillies train in FL. I think Wheeler lives in GA. He may not be too keen on spending 6 weeks in AZ if his other choice is around the same money. So the Sox may have to bump the Phillies offer a bit.

Sox would improve their chances if the second best bid won.

Yeah, I don't think teams are playing Dave Hester and risking hundreds of millions to get other teams in other leagues to up their bid. Also keep in mind, if they got the White Sox to pay extra, that ups the cost for everyone.

When there is stuff leaking that the White Sox are close it always seems to fall apart. Were their any "insiders" who had the Grandal signing more than 5 minutes before it was announced?