Dick Allen

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 1, 2015 -> 10:06 AM) That is the schtick for the entire Score line up. Find someone stupid, show them up, rinse, repeat. That is usually the next blinking line. Why would anyone who really knew what they are talking about call Boers and Bernstein? You know you will not be able to get your point out before they cut you off.

QUOTE (flavum @ Oct 1, 2015 -> 10:04 AM) I don't listen to Rongey that much anymore. My opinion is that the pool of good callers has eroded over the losing seasons, and he's only left with the meatballs. He's been doing it 10 years. It probably wouldn't hurt to get a new voice, but the Sox/WLS are going to do whatever. All sports radio has to be 95% meatball callers. When the Sox were winning the calls weren't as adversarial.

QUOTE (flavum @ Oct 1, 2015 -> 09:59 AM) I'll take your word for it on Farmer. I just don't like the guy on the air. Same stuff whenever I turn them on--golf, St. Rita, Notre Dame, tough guy act, Southern California, not giving the score, flubbing opponent's names on purpose...not a fan of the guy. He really is a nice person. What is funny about Rongey is he has maybe the worst broadcast job available. He took over for Dave Wills who used to post on WSI, so the WSI guys like Lip think he is the greatest thing ever. But when Wills did the show it was the same thing. I don't know how many times I heard him call a caller a drill rod. The next guy will be the same thing.

QUOTE (flavum @ Oct 1, 2015 -> 09:52 AM) Can we at least agree Hawk and Melton are terrible at their jobs, and Farmer is an arrogant asshole? I like Garfien. DJ is fine on the postgames with Rongey---he actually speaks the truth. Rongey? It's a tough job that he makes worse by being who he is. Probably a good time for some turnover. Do you really think a Rongey replacement would be able to go rogue and make you happy by agreeing with every boneheaded caller?

QUOTE (flavum @ Oct 1, 2015 -> 09:52 AM) Can we at least agree Hawk and Melton are terrible at their jobs, and Farmer is an arrogant asshole? I think Hawk is pretty good. Melton screws up a lot but is pretty entertaining, and if you ever met Ed Farmer, you would think he is one of the nicest people around.

QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ Oct 1, 2015 -> 09:30 AM) Average age of Hawk, Stone, Farmio, DJ and Bill Melton (CSN shows) is nearly 66 Hard to see how this is a winning strategy to cultivate younger fans. How old is Chuck Garfien, or does that ruin your stat? The age of the announcer is irrelevant. I like older guys, I like younger guys. I think some older guys suck, and I think some younger guys suck.

7 years since the last playoff appearance. 10 years since the last World Championship. Oh, the suffering. Fans should never be exposed to this.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Oct 1, 2015 -> 09:28 AM) The Bears sold me tickets for the 2016 NFC Championship game at Soldier Field. I guess the bigger question is why would you buy them?

What was interesting was RF isn't that old, but White Way is bankrupt, and soon will not be able to fix their things. Since it is coming in almost $3 million under what they budgeted, everyone should be happy. Hopefully, it will increase the White Sox ad revenue. And the new pinwheels look great.

This link has a rendering. Looks pretty awesome. http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/201...-cellular-field

Have the Cubs won a playoff game since Bartman? How many teams in professional sports have World Championships since 2005? You adjust the goalposts enough, you can make a lot of teams look bad. How many professional teams have finished last more often than Boston the past 4 seasons? Just forget the one time they didn't....title. I am pretty sure the whiners who need playoff appearances, will whine about not winning if that occurs. Of course it doesn't matter now, but they always will have a complaint in their back pocket. After the Sox won, there was post after post that said just making the playoffs isn't good enough anymore. Could you imagine some of these whiners every time the Braves were bounced during their historic playoff run? Do you really think they wouldn't be calling for heads to be chopped?

Just a minor clean up according to Hawk. I guess that should be career ending.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Sep 30, 2015 -> 05:56 PM) Frazier, and his OPS There have got to be some young 3B in the upper levels that we can get for a reasonable price. just do proper scouting and evaluation this time. As for C, Pirates got their C for a bullpen pitcher. Astros got Conger for a bullpen pitcher. He basically sucks, but he sucks less than Flowers. The Sox awful OF defense hurt Samardizja, a fly ball pitcher, more than anyone. Now why the Sox were so hell bent on trading for a fly ball pitcher is another question. If you catch the ball in the bleachers it is still a home run. Samrdzija was terrible.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 30, 2015 -> 02:06 PM) Too bad there will again only be about 8000 fans there and 6000 of em Royals fans. That just isn't correct. We have been told by an attendance expert that the White Sox and Cubs have just as many local fans, and that the out of town fans at USCF is virtualy zero.

QUOTE (ewokpelts @ Sep 30, 2015 -> 04:03 PM) Not sure. But I bet those "adults" knew how to read an Internet post before asking for a survey link http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/221895703424 That isn't a toy. Have fun playing with your toys.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 30, 2015 -> 12:54 PM) On the bright side, if Rose gets one more punch on his frequent buyer card, he gets his next surgery free. NBCSN Verified account ‏@NBCSN 16m16 minutes ago Derrick Rose’s surgery successful, he may return for opening night: http://tw.nbcsports.com/Ahc Opening night this season or next? He does need to get paid. He has a son who may be going to college. I am pretty sure DRose may be the dumbest person to ever play with the Bulls. I wish BJ, his agent would get in his face and tell him to shut up, but aparently the is a Reggie Rose production.

QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 30, 2015 -> 02:04 PM) Would love to not watch Claussen again. Unless they get a turnover deep in opponent territory, I don't see how they can score with Claussen. Fales must be just awful.

QUOTE (ewokpelts @ Sep 30, 2015 -> 02:28 PM) I wonder how many people getting this item will be "kids". After all, it's for the first 10k fans. I wonder how many kids won't get them because of "adults" hoarding toys.

Allen asked to be traded and was asked to provide a list of 4 teams.

In ever other White Sox relevancy thread,I read the Sox can't be relevant unless they start making the playoffs every year, and am constantly told t is what fans are owed. They shouldn't be expected to support simply good teams, they need a consistent winner. How would McDonough accomplish that? He is a marketing guy.

QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Sep 28, 2015 -> 12:27 AM) The argument I'm making isn't is he worth his contract. He is, and I'm happy with him as an individual player. At the same time, the overall hitting on this team sucks. He's been playing CF and pretty good at it. I think he's peaked, you maybe don't. I'd trade him unless the Sox plan on bringing in a lot more legitimate players with him which it doesn't sound like they plan on doing. You trade him for a position of need. That's what you do in all trades. Seriously, you trade something to get something. I would love to trade Danks and turn him into Trout, but that ain't happening. Instead, you can trade Eaton for someone in the infield (hell, you need all positions but one). That's just one idea. His defense has gone down. His average and OBP have gone down. He k's more. You have more or less seen the best of him. Not saying his peak won't last longer than a year or 3. I'm just saying I don't think he's going to improve dramatically anywhere. I don't think people understand his OBP is down a whopping .006 from last season. Another sign he needs to go.

The Pirates only had 20 losing seasons in a row. That is who a rebuild should be modeled. Trading Eaton fro a couple of prospects, because he supposedly is not as good as his numbers, and building around Trayce Thompson because he clearly is, is a great way to start.

They almost became teammates. The Yankees waived him at the end of 1990, and the Sox claimed him, but he had the right to refuse the claim.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 25, 2015 -> 02:58 PM) One team has done that in a relatively short period of time. That team also has a loyal fan base that allowed them to sign a $150 million pitcher to anchor the front of the rotation during that rebuild, so even them being included in the scorched earth part gets a little more questionable. Ours would look more like the Pirates and KC versions where we have to hope that one year finally everything comes together all at once and then hope the fans come back so we can keep the team together. Not only that, they had a team pass on Bryant, Samardzija turn down their offer for an extension, and got a Cy Young award guy out of nowhere for nothing. So huge breaks get them the second WC. The second WC in the AL is currently 7 games over 500. If that is what it takes for "sustained success", the White Sox have finished over 7 games over 5 times in the worst GM in the world's tenure. Other than that, it is prolonged losing. Maybe I am missing something, but during the last 3 years even when the Sox were in rebuilding mode, the gamethreads were full of whining about how bad so and so is.

Eaton .332/.414/.478 since the All Star break, yet "Robbie" continues to play him. Just another sign of incompetence.