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I'm sure not in that half. One more rebuild and I start to wonder if I will see another championship in my lifetime.

I am no TLR fan, but wish him comfort and better health. In any case TLR was never the root problem. He was the consequence.

For it to hurt they have to have some pride in themselves to begin with.

According to the press release, he is being excused from managing the rest of the season because of a health issue, which apparently is pretty dire. Ok fair enough, but why hasn’t the team announced exactly *what* the heath issue is? Granted, he is entitled to his privacy but still… All said, I could care less whether it’s an authentic health issue or an excuse to allow him an easy exit. My beef is that the FO itself is still there.

Excellent point. It was also compounded by the fact that they focused on getting the lumber without worrying about whether they could find a spot for them all in the field. That's what happens when you try to reconstruct a team with a handful of deadline trades rather than commit to a coherent organizational development strategy.

Oh yeah that's right. I seem to remember that the one had some potential but the other was a nothing.

Was that the year they targeted a star named Berry but accidentally got some other Berry, or something like that?

Yeah but what about for the Sox?

Cleveland seems to be making a statement going down the stretch that they are now competitively post season viable despite the fact the division is not.

Anymore I could care less about trades, whomever they are. They tried to tear it down already with trades and look where we are. The problem is when you trade to a rebuild you are stuck with grabbing whatever shiny packages are out there and trying to somehow make them work together. How about this? How about building a damn organization that functions with some sort of coherent philosophy and developmental plan? That doesn’t happen at a trade deadline. It takes a commitment and time, and at least some degree of intelligence.. They haven’t done that and this team from the owner down is quite simply ugly - and an insult.

Wow, so it looks like the substitute teacher brought the paddle and a ruler to crack some knuckles. Liking it.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2022/08/31/tony-la-russa-white-sox-manager-out-health-heart-tests/7952912001/

Well they aren’t mathematically eliminated but I think they are done. What convinced me was when Abreu said the team just needs to believe. That’s an acknowledgment the players don’t believe. They no longer, at least in their minds, have anything to push for - and that’s curtains.

It’s ironic they started that dead cat bounce against a team called the Tigers.

I would think if they were maybe six (two more than now) out with a couple weeks to go they would be effectively eliminated though not mathematically eliminated. I don’t think I would be on the edge of my seat at that point. Nevertheless, your scenario is the most likely.

What will probably happen is they will be eliminated but then win nine of their last ten and blunt some of the criticism.

When you bring in new guys, especially in a rebuild, you tend to see the ceiling as the likely outcome. That sets you up for disappointment when it doesn’t materialize perfectly.

Thanks guys.

super dumb question but why did they leave Kopech's date and move Cease's rainout date to tomorrow?

It’s interesting that baseball prospects typically graduate high school, go thru college, and spend a few years in the minors before reaching the majors, but football stars go straight from college, and basketball stars sometimes straight from high school.

Umm... La Russa structured the plan so that the more established members of the staff—Welch, Witt, and Darling—would enter after the starter and have the best shot at a win. “The concept was maybe the first guy would give you two or three innings, then Darling would come in for the third or fourth and at least get through the fifth, maybe the sixth,” La Russa says. “The [second] guy would give you his [50-ish] pitches, and then if he had a chance to win the game you’d go to Eck.”... https://www.theringer.com/mlb/2018/8/20/17758120/1993-oakland-athletics-tony-la-russa-opener-experiment

His statement says it was in treatment he took for ringworm and that he has always tested negative in the past. Not my dog but I’m inclined to believe him.

This season has been one long sine wave along the .500 line. The summer of “meh”.

Get used to it. He will be the 2023 regular second baseman.

Maybe instead of jeers and boos we should just laugh them off the field every day. I follow them for entertainment and honestly, this team could pass more as a comedy act than as excellence entertainment wise. And I don’t mean Globetrotters kind of comedy. I mean 67 Mets kind of comedy.