SpringfieldFan

Back in 1984 in the USFL the entire Chicago team swapped locations with the Arizona team leaving only the team identities behind. Yeah, they need to just do an Arizona-Chicago MLB swap like now.

Lance Lynn Adds To The Rumors About White Sox Lack Of Rules (brobible.com) 😬

We will all chuckle at this someday when Ramírez is in a Sox uni at the end of his career like the Alomars, Albert Belle, Visquel, Thome & Manny.

Well we now know replacing the players hasn't worked, replacing the coaches hasn't worked, and replacing the manager hasn't worked. So...what does that leave???

Last night someone here said the HRD would be his coming out party. It sure was…literally.

It'll just be a season of "meh" - 74 wins give or take a couple.

So, is the Rays gaudy record artificial because they have played a lot of games against the Sox or is the Sox gaudy record artificial because they have played a lot of games against the Rays?

To think that back in the 80’s that Tampa Bay almost got this organization. I think their fans are pretty satisfied right now with how that turned out, no?

“Can you believe that game? The guys are clearly feeling the pressure and wearing out already.” ”I know, but I know you could have prevented it “ ”Well, together we could have, but you can’t blame Jerry. The fanbase had his hands tied.” “Yeah I guess so. Well, take care Tony.” “You too Leury.”

Yeah, they can't just go and add more depth. This is a consequence of deficiencies in the organization before the rebuild. There already was no organizational depth or philosophy underneath a major league team that itself was already going nowhere. They traded the stars they did have and acquired a few very high ceiling prospects - but nothing else. They didn't have the resources for anything else. I recall five or six years ago that analysts rated minor league systems and though they acknowledged the exceptional talent the Sox had acquired, they rated a couple other orgs still higher because their acquired prospects were closer to mlb-ready. They were right. The Sox' high ceiling talent didn't reach projections and the consequence is the bare cupboard that we still have from before.

It's just sad we will never again have the thrill of Baines walking off a home run in the bottom of the 25th...

Stupid rule. I would rather they just let the games end in a tie.

On Yaz this seemed to make sense but I couldn't help thinking how I saw Fisk behind the plate every game back in the day. Or did I... I went ahead and looked up Fisk's career stats. Well, he was typically in the 130's for games played, some years fewer, a year or two over 150. Similar for the "other" Pudge, same for Molina and Tony Pena. Even Johnny Bench sat in the 130's although a couple years early in his career he was at or near 160. Posada was typically in the low 140's even though I can't remember *ever* seeing him not playing. I guess my realization now is that catchers typically sit at least a game a week. Just food for thought.

It’s always the future with this Kopech guy isn’t it?

Meanwhile Lance Lynn just gave up a 1st inning 2 run jack to Arraez and Venezuela in the WBC. Now back to your regularly scheduled thread.

Which is why I am hardly the fan I used to be.

It's funny how we root for the players when they are the most transient part of the organization, coming and going according to upper business dealings and their own financial situations. Makes me wonder just what we are fans of.

An inability for the majority of the team to stay healthy, no plate discipline, brainless often idiotic play in the field, no rotation depth, no closer, no 2nd baseman, an unproven manager, and a handful of players who think that just putting on the jersey means they can strut around despite earning nothing. I don't want to take a whiff of what they're going to pull 85 wins out of.

Since this team is a dumpster fire, trade away the remaining talent and bring back collared jerseys, drunken broadcasters, and Andy the Clown.

Thank you! I am totally on board with this take. If this behavior is standard among professional athletes, they might as well put robots on the field because I can't respect what these guys bring to the field as human beings.

There will be resounding NO's across the board on this but for this purpose bring in Pierzynski. It would be a car wreck and a final implosion, and it would be glorious.

So no mea culpas and JR, RH and KW are still at the helm, right? Anyone know if the doorknobs at Guaranteed Rate are padded? I hope so because one’s gonna hit me in the a** on my way out.

TLR wasn't a necessary cause for this team's demise. He was a sufficient cause though. Other sufficient causes were the fact that the players themselves don't have the talent or the mental makeup to perform, and can't stay in one piece for any period of time.

MIchael Kopech A man barely alive. Gentlemen, we can rebuild him. We have the technology...

I am all for optimism but there are only so many times I can dip into that well. 90 wins next year might be possible with a few more stars lining up - that does give you a central title but not a playoff quality team. I am beyond where the hope of backing into the playoffs makes up for enduring the product I have to watch along the way. Maybe the injuries are in line with the norm these days. However, the abject stupidity these players show at the plate, on the basepaths, and in the field is hardly the norm. Neither is not giving decent effort or showing you even care - when that's the least of what the paying fans are entitled to see. These last couple weeks are an insult. Act like a damn professional player with some pride in what your doing for heaven's sake!!! At this point, I hate to say it, but W-L aside, I just don't "like" this group of players (I hesitate to call them a team because they sure don't seem to want to do the least thing to honor the White Sox brand). And then the management and ownership...