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The brilliance of being the worst organization in baseball is you can take from any team and it's an upgrade.

We may have sent possible no voters by bus and plane loads to Chicago.

In public funded stadium news San Antonio voters approved money for a new Spurs Stadium. That will mean San Antonio will have three stadiums in current operation that have all hosted NBA games and meet current NBA standards. We would easily approve a NFL training facility or a MLB stadium.

Who can forget the Will? Purdue era. And the fans chanting for Graaaaan Ville in the final moments of a game.

Exactly true. The Bulls front office thought the kid could sell a few tickets.

I think it is fair to expect an owner to recruit a front office that can put together a winning program. So that's basically the baseline of competency for me. He has consistently failed at that for decades. He's failed at what I believe is the minimum to pass.

They have tremendous impact. But they won't receive credit. How much credit do you give JR for those Bulls trophies? We're agreeing the worst owner of sports has seven combined championships in two sports.

How much credit to we give JR for those Bulls trophies?

Signing marquee free agents or locking your players into high dollar, multi year contracts, is certainly a criteria for being a good owner. However I think average total payroll is better, especially in baseball.

Actually, don't run anything. Hire good people and support them. Give them a reasonable amount of time and if their plan doesn't work move on.

There isn't an owner responsible for wins, that credit goes to the players. But loses fall in their laps. That's just the nature of the world. In that regard that makes JR about the worst of the worst. Start factoring in things like market size and he looks even worst. Other owners only take action when an owner is accused of harassment or racist comments. If some franchise wants to be the Washington Generals the other owners don't care. So there really aren't many bad owners in their eyes. Sports are a weird business. I want someone to make a fortune in another business then spend all that further to make my team a winner.

I was making a broad generalization about Sox news not Sox fans. Look at all that you added. I never called anyone a sucker. I know you don't like me, never had, but resorting to lies like this is really low.

I don't believe anyone has to make up negative news with this team. It's as natural to them as waking up with bad breath. Positive news on the other hand has to be made up and planted with media sources that they have control over and need to be fact checked. It's like panning for gold. The dirt you just keep washing away, but when you spot somthing shiny you slow down and verify. So as a Sox fan 90% of the news will be negative and mostly factual. It's the other 10% that require a closer look. I will agree it is much easier to get Sox fans to believe a negative lie than a positive one. But that really is on the team for generating so much negativity. I would have been a more careful writer if I knew my words would be scrutinized.

Exactly. And those we fact check and quickly prove inaccurate or exaggerations. The negative are generally true.

It's also not the same as misinterpreting what I wrote.

It's been so long since we've had any positive news. I'll fact check a positive story faster than I will a negative. What percentage of the verified news regarding the team has been positive in the past three years? I'm saying 10% or less?

The news has been all negative for the past couple years. It's far easier for me to believe something negative than anything positive.

White Sox fans guide to what is credible and what is a lie. Negatives are truth Positives are lies You'll be correct 90% of the time. The culture just keeps getting carried down for over a century. Send everyone to Nashville, call them the Nashville Cats then place an expansion White Sox team in Chicago.

Thank you. That was my reasoning. Exactly when they really needed someone big and bold they hired someone that may have made Tony look good. Huge mistake at a big moment. They should trademark the phrase.

Limiting this to just the 21st Century my Sox Mount Rushmore of Infamy Tony LaRussa Mike Clevinger Pedro Grifol JR There are several others that are close, Billy Botch, Kimbrel, Vaughn, TA, Vizquel, some will have Luery the Legend, the list goes on forever and the party never ends. I'm certain I'm forgetting a few names. I almost left JR off the rock face solely based on 2005. Limiting to just the 21st Century conveniently allowed me to dismiss TLR part 1 which I was a big fan of.

Not so bold prediction. He's back in Chicago by June 15th.

Agreed. The best lies have to be believable and this is. Most celebrity encounters in my life were very brief and rehearsed. The pro golfers have been the singular exception.

My memory has it the opposite, they fired him but Frank kept working with him. Someone will remember it correctly.

The first player I remember going outside the organization was Frank Thomas. So it's been going on for decades.

Which actually seems kinda crazy. You would think developing a right fielder would be easier.