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Best guess is they aren't his decisions. This has looked no different than the Pedro lead team. Since they already made it clear he is not going to be the manager here, seems pretty obvious the call on who to play is coming from the front office. It probably was the same deal when Pedro was here as well.

I tend to agree with this, especially after seeing the player profile Getz has been acquiring. They have a very long way to go to get out of 100 loss seasons, the absolute best case scenario for that is 2026 but as you said, a lot needs to break right.

They will lose 100+ next year for sure. 2026 is probably the earliest we will see them get out of 100 loss territory and even then it depends on if they spend any money to get actual MLB players on the roster or they just hope and pray every prospect develops.

So you're saying we did in fact make a good trade???

Fletcher's August slash line of .275 / .306 / .624 is at least mildly encouraging but he better be one of the best defenders in baseball if that's what were going to be getting from our RFer offensively. And as its already been pointed out, seems like he has been putting up some very unsustainable defense metrics over the course of a season. When we trade Robert, if they slide Fletcher over to the everyday CF role and he can OPS .650 while playing great defense its at least usable.

Buddy I’m a Dolphins fan, f*** them Bears.

Football is back, who gives a f*** about these losers anymore.

Yeah I’ve pretty much given up thinking other players would be good here. Seems like anyone who puts this jersey on immediately loses all their talents.

Typically yes, for pitchers that have built up to it over a few seasons. There’s no telling how Crochet responds next season, this was a really unique situation.

What’s not to understand? He’s never thrown innings like this, not even close. It’s about managing your multi million dollar asset. There’s no reason to risk any further injury in a season that is over.

It won’t, the concern is how his body responds to throwing this many innings with no build up.

Crochet has been terrible since August. Either the Sox really are the most incompetent franchise in baseball botching his management, or possibly worse letting Crochet dictate how he’s used. Can we shut this guy down already?

I can’t believe these guys are still playing Sheets and Lopez everyday lol

The pitching is largely in the same spot as it was prior to Bannister getting here, organizationally. Unless im completely blanking on someone.

The pitching sucks. Even with Crochet, only the Rockies have given up more runs than the White Sox this season. I don't understand why everyone thinks Bannister walks on water around here.

Well never be a Cleveland type operation because Cleveland, while not spending a ton of money and being cheap, invests in their scouting and development and make smart hires. The White Sox wont do this, and the money they do spend is spent on the mid tier of free agency for players that aren't moving the championship needle. Its been said to death, but we just need new ownership. Once that happens, ill immediately feel better about the state of the team.

Hey, they finally fired a bunch of dudes who should have been fired after last seasons debacle. Victory lap time.

Seriously, how can anyone say they feel a lot better about the state of the team now. There is a very real chance that they are even worse next season. They will almost certainly trade Crochet and Robert and the roster will be made up of developing prospects and washed up veterans they will attempt to flip. There is so much that needs to be done before its even realistic to feel better about this team. Everyone should be scared to death about what we are going to see next season.

I think its almost a certainty that Getz believed he put together a roster much better than the 2023 roster. The whole premise to hiring Getz was built on the fact that JR couldn't waste time with a rebuild and he owed it to the fans to right this ship immediately. Not once did they ever say this was a rebuild. It wasn't until the season went off the rails almost immediately that Getz started talking about things "taking time". I guarantee you they went into this season expecting way more than 60 wins.

People are throwing a fit because the 2024 White Sox are quite literally the worst team in baseball history with an unqualified GM who has continually made the wrong move, a middling farm system, and no money will be spent to improve the big league team. If people want to "wait and see" with Getz, whatever, you do you. Im not going to pat him on the back for firing people who deserved to be fired. Everyone deserves to be fired after losing 120+ games.

Seriously, im not giving Getz credit for firing people that should have been fired before this season even started. Hell, Getz should have been one of those people. So far, he's done nothing right. The team he put on the field this year is literally the worst team in baseball history. Yes, some of the players don't have his fingerprints on them but a lot of them do. Great, he let go of people who should have been let go a while ago. Lets see what he does with the manager now, and with Crochet and Robert, and what little money he will be allowed to spend this off-season. He has a long way to go and a LOT to prove before I change my outlook on him and this organization.

My favorite part so far is they finally fire Pedro, and they are somehow even worse.

Good analogy with Clemson. You would think that this season would force some kind of mass changes. I don't understand how he can't see this and be like "Man, I made a terrible decision".

And honestly, this team doesn't need a top notch manager right now. That's who they needed to hire back in 2021. They need to try to find some promising young guy with potential that can hopefully become a top notch manager. Anyone top notch right now probably isn't interested in watching over a 90-100 loss team for the next two to three years.

I mean you're not wrong, but they still play the A's and Angels 9 times over the rest of the season and they are winning 3-4 games per month so it will be close.