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If Drury hadn’t gotten hurt he would have been on the opening day roster

He is definitely capable of doing it as we just saw last season. What worries me is how awful he was prior to the call up, and what adjustments will be made from opposing pitchers. Was it a hot streak or is he just one of those guys who needed the callup to get going to his potential. My concern is him striking out 30% or more and hitting .190, otherwise you're right he's probably hitting 30+ homers fairly easily.

Same, I also voted 19 or fewer.

This is the same organization that accidentally put out AJ Hinch signature on the Tony Larussa hiring graphic. I would say its highly unlikely they intentionally left out Frank, they're just incompetent.

There is literally nowhere for him to play without losing a more intriguing young player.

Eh, Shields was a durable SP with a low 4 ERA. Erik Johnson was nothing and Tatis was a 17 year old who hadn't even played pro ball yet. If Tatis had flamed out, no one would even remember this trade I imagine. Well, maybe Caulfield.

Way late to the response on this, but I can't think of a better way to call it a career than for a guy whose motto was never give up, to finally have to give up. I mean hell, this whole retirement tour was basically Cena giving up wrestling. It made sense to me.

Those are not really comparable scenarios. There is a very big difference between trying to plug a hole on a contending team and trying to plug a hole on a rebuilding team. There was nothing wrong with the James Shields trade at the time, but in hindsight it was absolutely horrific. The guys you named that Getz acquired were waiver claims, released players, or nothing trades.

No matter how you look at it, OF or DH, he will be taking away at bats for someone who needs them more. Hopefully, he is DFA before midseason.

I know you aren't justifying it, this is merely a forum discussion. I think too many people get caught up in "arguments" when that's not really at all what you or myself are doing here. When I said fire everyone, I didn't mean every single employee for the organization. Director of Player Development and Amateur Scouting Director would however be two that I would feel need to go if you went into a rebuild that failed as miserably as ours did. We don't need to pretend that the only thing wrong with the team was the acquisitions the GM made. There was definitely a lack of development and no reinforcements from the minors that contributed to this teams demise.

Yes, if it was me I would have fired everyone and completely started over with an entire new baseball operation. That's what you do when you have a total organizational failure. This sometimes, unfortunately, means that good people get let go. At the very least, you hire an outside guy to run the show and let them decide who they want to stick around. I just would never have promoted from within given how poorly every aspect of the organization was running. Now, lets say in an alternate universe the Sox were an 85+ win team consistently and just kept falling short of getting over the hump, I could at least understand if Hahn was let go or resigned and they promoted someone like Getz into the GM. Even though I understand your side of this, I find it hard to believe that Chris Getz was handcuffed in his previous role and not really in charge. This seems like an argument made from total assumption, and I don't think there is any proof to say its the case. I am sure there have been plenty of people in this organization that had a good, forward thinking idea that was shot down. This includes KW and Hahn, the problem is the man who cuts the checks. That man took the shortcut route of just making a convenient hire instead of doing his due diligence to back up what he says to his fanbase.

You're right, he wasn't. I have no choice but to hope he works out, doesn't mean I can't be critical of the decision making that led us here.

You need to take last years improvement with a grain of salt, they were coming off the worst season in baseball history. This season is where you will actually see what kind of improvement is happening.

Im not accusing anybody of wanting Getz to be the GM, I am just generally speaking that when you have a failed rebuild it is incredible rare that you hire from within to lead the next rebuild.

The point is, this organization had cratered and the proper thing to do at that point was clean house and do an actual search to bring in the right people to get the ship headed in the right direction. I really don't think that's unfair at all. It's unfair to the fanbase more than anything.

No, he should have been fired. When you’re responsible for player development and no one develops, you shouldn’t keep your job much less get promoted when they decide to clean house. We’re not talking about a good scout who the GM ignored here.

For being a part of the previous failed regime, obviously.

The Cease trade and not cashing out on Robert at the same time has really set this thing back quite a bit. Imagine what we would be looking at if he had botched the Crochet trade as well, yikes.

The Hays move to me is a complete waste. If you want a sub 1 war player in the OF we have plenty of options that could conceivably do that and it wouldnt cost $6 million dollars. Would have rather seen that money allocated to try and get a starting pitcher.

That's pretty much how I feel about this team. I completely get others optimism, there are a lot of things I am excited to watch this season, but this team still isn't any good on paper and most likely in practice as well. It's really just a snarky way of saying they're bad but at least they are moving in the right direction, which to me seems like a perfect description for the team currently.

That entire trade has been just brutal.

So you want to trade a 24 year old MLB player who showed potential in his rookie year because of a 23 year old who has 49 games in double a? What is this.

Would be incredibly dumb to move him IMO. On a bad team, he doesn't look like anything special but he's the type of player that will look way better when surrounded by better players.

Yeah RF seems like the lock to be rotated through with guys throughout the year. Baldwin and Acuna should be given every opportunity to stick.

Baldwin - Acuna - Kelenic is the OF I would like to see work out to start the season.