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Fangraphs gave it a FV of 70 in last year’s prospect rankings. Honestly in his spring start against the Cubs it looked the part, but that pitch is long since dead. God only knows what happened to this kid.

Send this guy down. He’s clearly not going to be able to work through his shit at the major league level.

I get the BB rate is nice, but Narvaez literally brings nothing else to the table. I’d rather see guys run wild on Smith than tolerate another passed ball or weak groundout from Omar.

I wish, just bizarre it continues to deteriorate without a known injury.

Glad to hear Hostetler say they haven’t even discussed Moncada & Anderson being locked in at 2B & SS at the major league level as a factor when discussing potentially drafting Madrigal. That is 100% the right approach.

That’s interesting, thanks for posting.

I don’t disagree that it seems crazy, but a 25% BB rate in AA is pretty crazy itself. I’ve been looking for comps but there really aren’t any good ones. From what I can tell, most of the players with BB rate in the high teens lose a good four or five points from AA to the pros. Matt Olsen did lose about eight points since AA and that’s the most extreme example I could find in recent years. I think a 15% BB rate is a pretty realistic target IMO with room for some upside.

How many of those guys had 25% BB rates in AA? I think some of you guys are seriously undervaluing what kind of a rare asset Collin’s batter’s eye is. He will likely see some drop when he reaches the pros, but a 50% decrease because “major league pitching” is pretty absurd IMO. If that happens, then he’s going to get a lot more good pitches to hit. Regardless, are there actually any examples of a player who walked as much as Collins suddenly not walking in the pros?

You think his BB rate is somehow going to be fall from 25% in AA to 8 to 10% in the pros? He has perhaps the best plate discipline in the entire minors and is the victim of poor umpiring. I’d be absolutely shocked if his BB rate in the majors fell below 15%.

And if that’s the case, by all means move him. I love me some Abreu and would love to find a way to keep him with the White Sox long-term, but if market conditions provide us with an opportunity to add multiple high-end talents then it will be hard not to say goodbye to him. My only beef is with the notion of getting rid of him for some fringe prospects or salary relief. He’s a top 20 hitter in the game and those guys aren’t easily replaced. Moving him better be on our terms.

I think you’re spot on here.

This is the worst Fangraphs prospect list I can remember to be honest.

Fangraphs finally released our top prospect list: https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/top-25-prospects-chicago-white-sox/

India above Bohm is pretty wild.

Yeah, I’m still not sure if they’re playing Curbelo at 3B because Laz is the better SS or if they think that’s likely his long-term home. But Madrigal would get priority at SS over him and pretty much anyone else. Still a lot of bodies for Getz to manage in A ball between Madrigal, Rivera, Curbelo, Forbes, Yrizarri, and some of the more fringey guys like Blackman, Remillard, & Roman.

While none of the guys are high end prospects, there is a bit of an infield jam at the lower levels. Laz Rivera already needs a promotion ASAP. My guess is if we draft Madrigal, he starts the season in Kannapolis and takes Rivera’s spot post promotion. If he dominates, then they find room for him in W-S before the end of the season.

There are 234 players with 130 or more plate appearances this season. Out of those players, 30 are over the age of 32 at the moment. That means on average each team is starting a player over the age of 32 or roughly 1/8 of all starting position players are above this age threshold. And nearly a 1/3 of those players are 1B/DH types. And while a few of these guys are only around for financial reasons, I think players aged 33 and above are more common than you think.

As expected, Ron has jinxed another player.

I wouldn’t jump to any conclusions over some extremely flukey power numbers and a high BABIP in a 35 plate appearance sample. Remember when Trayce Thompson was the next Ken Griffey Jr for a brief stint with the Dodgers. Things will most likely normalize our and he’ll be a solid backup infielder if he can manage to stay healthy.

When Adam Engel is batting 7th, you know things have gone terribly wrong.

You lose all negotiating leverage by punting the pick into next year and you lose a year of development time. Seems like a risky proposition to take this early into our rebuild. Just cause it worked out for the Astros one time doesn’t automatically mean it will work for us.

In all seriousness, India just seems like a total White Sox pick. The underslot part of it would not be typical, but viewing him as a potential SS when the rest of the scouting community doesn’t would qualify. So far with Hostetler at helm, we’ve drafted a catcher & 3B in the 1st round both viewed as likely 1B long-term by many experts. Could see the same thing here except thinking India can be a SS while the vast majority see a 3B. Hopefully I’m wrong, because I think Bohm & Madrigal are both superior prospects.

He also said “it doesn’t matter if we just drafted it” so Bohm confirmed!

What is league average in those situations?

I view Riley Pint a lot like Cease. Big arm but some serious question marks (different issues obviously). Get him in the system and hope our development guys can get things to click for him. Regardless, option A is all about getting Rodgers. I’m taking a discount on the secondary pieces if I get true blue-chipper for Abreu and that’s what Rodgers is. He may not be quite as good as Jimenez, but we’re talking about a far less valuable asset. As for option B, I’m not sure I understand what your beef with Hoffman is or what the “not even on the team” comment means. He’d be the perfect type of arm to add and we could immediately insert him into our major league rotation. On top of that, we get an instant replacement for Abreu in McMahon and a major league ready CF prospect. While I’d love to add Dahl as a buy-low type, he’s already part of the OF mix for the Rockies and I really think they’d avoid giving him up. Tapia would get at least a year and half opportunity in CF before Robert & Basabe become serious threats. There’s a lot of value in adding three major league ready pieces that we can afford to work through their growing pains with. And quite frankly, I don’t think the Rockies would do either trade. I’m sure Rodgers is off-limits for anything but the most elite, cost-controlled talents and I can’t see them gutting a huge portion of their major league depth in one fair swoop. More realistically I could see them offering something like McMahon & Tapia and that just wouldn’t do it for me.