Chicago White Sox

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Sep 14, 2017 -> 09:42 AM) You're still on this? lol Wasn't Greg the person who said that originally? More proof Ron = Greg.

Camilla f***ing sucks and is super overrated in the looks department.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Sep 14, 2017 -> 04:56 AM) Where is Manny Machado in the projected lineup? I really wanna see the Sox spend this off-season. They have money, there are some really good young players out there, and their first round pick will be protected. Wrong free agency period. Machado will be available in two offseasons, along with a bunch of other big names. IMO, 2019 will be the first year they really go for it and we'll see a lot of free agent activity the offseason before. I really think we can be serious World Series contenders in 2019 with a few big moves and solid development from the core young guys like Moncada, Anderson, Jimenez, Kopech, Giolito, & Lopez. 2018 is year too early, but things are definitely moving faster than anticipated.

QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Sep 11, 2017 -> 06:49 PM) Don't remember who they were or how many, but I'd love to hear from the people who were talking s*** on Jose now. Dude is just flat out one of the better pure hitters in baseball. Would it be nice if he was a little bit better at first base? Of course, but his bat FAR out weighs his D. Given his relative cheap contract I'm really curious to see if there's any good offers for him this off season. I'm really not interested in trading Abreu as I think having his bat anchoring the middle of our lineup is crucial for a quick rebuild. If I were Hahn, I'd explore an extension with him this offseason. A five year deal would allow us to control him through his age 35 season. That's probably as far as I'd go with him right now, but it's something I actually think Jose would accept.

Very encouraging to see Anderson start to turn things around. He's always going to be a limited offensive player due to his lack of taking walks, but the mix of power & speed along with potentially above average defense could result in a 3 to 4 WAR player down the road. I'm very glad they stuck with him through this tragedy despite how poor the results were. He's an important part of this team's future and I fully expect a significant leap in development in 2018.

Well if this thread works nearly as well as the Abreu one, I don't think we'll have much to worry about going forward.

Glad I drafted Kareem Hunt in both my leagues.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Sep 7, 2017 -> 07:44 PM) That will be the game we win because baseball. Lol...probably true.

QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 7, 2017 -> 06:29 PM) Tank Series: Fri- Moore vs Giolito Sat- Samardzija vs Shields Sun- Bumgarner vs Fulmer At least Sunday is a guaranteed loss. I'll be happy with 1 out of 3 TBH.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Sep 4, 2017 -> 12:32 PM) WTF? That's crazy. He's having his first decent season and still has shortcomings. On one hand, he has a .368 wOBA and a wRC+ of 132. Solid season. He does have a crazy high .392 BABIP though. He's not a defender and only has 14 homers while being relegated to an OF corner. He's just always a guy that contending teams will be looking to replace in my opinion. sincity is a blatant troll, just ignore him. Wish the mods would do something about him, because there is really no black or white about his intentions.

I think Avi has made some real strides this year with the bat, but I definitely don't think he's someone you build around. His offensive profile still has too many question marks, I worry about his overall game if he were to add weight/lose speed as he ages, we're deep with minor league OFs, & we're going to have a f***ton of money in the coming years and I'd like to aim a little higher with that money than a 2-3 WAR player who doesn't play a premium up-the-middle position. I'd shop him like crazy this offseason and seriously consider any deal headlined by a top 100 prospect. If not, I'd be ok with holding him into next year, but I don't see him as part of our next good team.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Sep 4, 2017 -> 08:53 AM) Interesting choice. The lefty reliever showed improvement in AA although he walked a few too many. Most likely will be used as a situational lefty. He was a prime Rule 5 candidate, so might as well add him to the 40 man now and get a look at him against big league hitters.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 1, 2017 -> 08:45 PM) Great recovery by Lopez, and nice to see him maintaining velocity I thought he looked awesome tonight. Obviously not a perfect start, but damn could you see the potential in this kid.

That was a bizarre attempt by Hanson.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Sep 1, 2017 -> 07:01 PM) Guerrero was striking out everyone in the first half but the Ks have disappeared in the 2nd half. Was just thinking the same thing.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Sep 1, 2017 -> 06:13 PM) I am really jonesing for some Delmonico and Moncada. I was actually watching every game for a while. But once those two & Lopez went down it's been a tough watch.

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Sep 1, 2017 -> 12:27 PM) You and Greg should have a cage match There's no doubt they are the same underlying person.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 1, 2017 -> 11:02 AM) Even above that we are starting to see results from the previous classes. Micker Adolfo had a great year. A guy like Luis Martinez is pushing through the system. Carlos Perez improved a lot as the season went on. These guys are filling up the rosters in Arizona and Great Falls. I'll be honest, we really need to see several more of these guys hit full season ball before I get excited.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 31, 2017 -> 11:02 PM) You wait. Kopech and Gio will not be in the bigs til September next year. Sox will not rush guys in a wasted season. I know I've been up and down on Lopez. I'm not THAT high on him yet. Do you guys think he's a lock to be a No. 2, 3 stud or are u like me and not convinced? I do worship Rodon. I'm convinced he'll be a stud, health permitting. I know he's a free agent, but I figure he's one of those guys you could just sign for pennies w/out much competition. He has to be happy with Coop and nobody's offering him much dough this offseason. I feel like he could be a moderately acceptable starter if we're trying to win. He's certainly LIGHT YEARS better than Shields or the two guys who are not as good as Fathom: Holland and Pelfrey. I figure MiGo is the kinda guy who after the season ended woulda agreed to a cheap contract and stay on the south side with Coop. Why would trading him now prevent us from bringing him back in the offseason? I really don't understand how your brain works.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 31, 2017 -> 10:54 PM) I wish we could develop hitters like Coop does pitchers. Cause this is another intriguing guy, Forbes. 6-3, 180? Wow. A tall third baseman. ... A second round pick who has done nothing so far in the minors. Only 21. Obviously has talent. But will he ever sniff the majors? I know I've ripped MiGo in the past but he actually had some good starts. Do u think this moves means we truly are tanking again next year? We've pretty much dealt every MLB pitcher who possibly could get anybody out this year. Nobody's taken Holland or Pelfrey so far cause they are off the charts lousy. Me thinks our staff is gonna be putrid next year cause cooler heads will prevail and Sox won't rush the prospects. Yup, us trading a free agent to be definitely means we'll be tanking next year. That's some quality deductive reasoning right there Greg. Well done.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Aug 30, 2017 -> 07:51 PM) Everyone gets that man. We all agree. Everyone. I bet that's what the Sox do, in fact, pretty much everyone thinks that's what the Sox will do. That's the really SAFE bet at this point. No balls or smarts required to bet on that outcome. You claimed it was a "fireable offense" to have him break camp. I think it's ok, fun, & smart to try to come up with scenarios where that is a justified move. For the reasons people have listed above, there are ways where it makes sense. No, not everyone gets this. The person I continue to reply to definitely does not get this. He's so impatient that he'd sacrafice a full year of control during our window for two measly starts in a lost season.

QUOTE (Alexeihyeess @ Aug 30, 2017 -> 02:49 PM) Never mind that he gives them a much better chance to win games than Covey. If he earns it they should let him up, this isn't Rodon. There is no Boras lurking. If he performs the Sox should be very aggressive in extending him. For two f***ing starts in a meaningless season. I guess you don't care about the 32 starts six years from now when we should (hopefully) have a World Series caliber roster in place. This is literally one of the dumbest ideas I have ever seen and the idea we can just assume he'll be open to an extension because Boras isn't his agent is absurd. Look at the amount of pre arb extensions in recent years. There really haven't been that many of them and the number is trending down. Under no circumstance do you pass up a guaranteed extra year of control. It's really that simple.

QUOTE (Alexeihyeess @ Aug 29, 2017 -> 10:52 PM) I think service time is a much smaller concern in pitchers than it is hitters. Boras clients notwithstanding, pitchers seem very keen on locking in extensions once they are able. If Kopech breaks camp with the big league club and is lights out for his first two full seasons it is very likely he will lock-in a below-market extension (that would still make him set for life) rather than risk injury for four more seasons waiting on a massive payday. The Sox probably already have some idea of Kopech's camps willingness to embark on such an extension, and if they feel its a strong possibility there is really no reason for Kopech to waste his talents in Charlotte. Not waiting two weeks to ensure an extra year of control would be a fireable offense IMO. I can't believe there are people on this site who would be ok with. Completely mind-boggling.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Aug 29, 2017 -> 11:43 AM) Sox need to trade MiGo and get Covey back in the rotation. 100% agree. Hopefully Gonzalez doesn't make his next start on the 31st.

Cooper may be a little overrated, but he's one of the better pitching coaches in baseball and has certainly been better then what we've had on the hitting side.