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I don’t think there are going to be any wholesale changes until this current window closes

I don't think cash is coming back

Ron, it’s old.

The Sox have never been able to actually develop hitting. They’re eternally attracted to drafting guys who are so athletic that they’re somehow successful despite their lack of polish/instruction/mechanics, and then the team just… sees if the success continues. Whether or not the team can put together a top-tier offense in a given year depends almost entirely on how many freak-of-nature “exceptions” like TA or Luis Robert they can manage to have ready on the active roster at the same time — modified by whether or not their bargain free agent signings still have one good year left in the tank or not. Gordon Beckhams, Zack Collinses, etc. just rot on the vine.

Couldn't afford to lose the depth.

Could be, for sure. But I think it's tough to draw that kind of conclusion from a week and change.

Right, has there been a clearer recent example of a manager that had left the clubhouse in disarray? The Ozzie Guillen situation is precisely the type of situation that I'm arguing would warrant a change. I haven't seen any evidence that the TLR situation is like that.

No, but I'm saying that I'd need to be convinced by an argument that is IS in disarray before I'd personally want the Sox to go through the process of changing management at this point. I bring this up only because my sense is that most of the energy behind this thread is based on TLR's recent unexplainable tactical decisions/comments about tactics in interviews.

I feel like when you make a managerial change, you enter this whole period of a new staff coming in, building relationships, evaluating current coaching staff, setting new routines, etc. While the upside of that change, ultimately, may be worth it -- there's always risk that it isn't and there's the uncertainty of how much time it takes to gel, etc. At the end of the day, the manager is an easy scapegoat, but unless the clubhouse is in disarray, I just don't think we have much evidence that even dumb stuff like batting Leury third really makes that much of a difference in the W column. I would rather ride with TLR, as long as he can maintain the morale, than roll the dice with another manager and accept the risks of momentum loss and of ending up with someone who is even worse. Because as tactically crazy and personally reprehensible as TLR may be, the managerial situation can certainly be A LOT worse than it is in terms of how the clubhouse is being handled, and in my personal opinion, that's the much larger issue as far as the impact a manager can have. I would not have made the hire in the first place, but now that we're this far in, I think the best move is to keep pressing forward.

Mediocre stretch of ten games? There are injuries but we always knew there would be. It’s April 25th and they’re a game and half back. I don’t like TLR either but you’re going to see this stretch at least a couple more times no matter WHAT the batting order is, even if the team wins it all this year.

I’m past the point of sacrificing time for strategic political bullshit for this crew. For me, they’re riding in together and they’re either going to win or they all gotta go. The time for punting is past; every season is in the window now.

It's April 19th.

Leury PH

Oh me too, I just mean I wouldn't be surprised if Oakland actually really wants him.

I’ll just say that Gavin Sheets exactly the type of player that Oakland reliably turns into a two-time all-star.

Or, Garcia. Garcia, Garcia, Rios -- who was used to acquire Garcia.

Garcia, Garcia, Garcia, Garcia

What a crazy day,

He's a guy

As far as a non-sexy, could be used as a swingman later in season, couldn’t cost too much in a trade because he’s out of options potential choice: Nick Martinez took some serious steps forward last year with SoftBank and the Padres snagged him. I wonder if they wouldn’t rather part with him than Paddack or whatever. Wouldn’t be the worst pickup for an April/May flyer with some upside.

Best you can do when you wait for something to break before addressing it.

So as not to end up like:

This sucks buts it’s hard to make the argument that it’s anyone’s fault, in particular. Until we make some serious advances in injury prevention, this shit just happens a lot to pitchers, especially with elite stuff, around this age.

I'm guessing the Sox are pencilling in significant time for Engel and Sheets out there already. Those guys don't look so bad when they're depth/rest options.

Good move. Might not work out, but good move. Makes sense today.