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The way I see it Frazier for Clarkin, D Rob I expected to get a top 50 prospect. Rutherford is a top 40. But Clippard weighs down the offer. Without Kahnle, we would have slightly won the trade. Let's see if the last name is interesting.

Honestly thought Frazier/D Rob is enough if we were to take back Clippard. Kahnle is someone we should have held on for much better return next year. Underwhelming deal for once.

I'm cool with Jay Groome and Chavis.

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 03:19 PM) You think the Tigers aren't going to ask the moon for Martinez? They probably asked for Rodgers. If the Sox can sell Avi for a good price now and undercut the Tigers while doing it, they'll be doing the next competitive roster a huge favor. I guess your question is answered now?

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 02:46 PM) Why do they want J.D. Martinez? Avi isn't Martinez. Martinez has a more proven track record and as a rental player commands less of a return. Also, other teams in the division have called on Martinez, Rox may just be driving up the price for division rivals.

Why would Rockies want Avi, they have a crowded outfield as is. Parra, Blackmon, Tapia, Desmond, Cargo, and David Dahl just started a rehabbed assignment and could be back in a few weeks. I think they have more pressing needs.

Compared to other segments on the Network? I think it's one of the most popular and talked about segments.

I enjoyed it a lot, and it's gotta be the most watched thing on the Network outside of PPV and NXT. 205 Live is uninteresting and just lost Aries. I think it's a combination of things for Vince, but if I have to guess what triggered it it's when Sasha went off on Alexa after GBOF. Feelings must have been hurt.

So Talking Smack has been cancelled because Vince feels it's not best for business... The man needs to go away.

So Talking Smack has been cancelled because Vince feels it's not best for business... The man needs to go away.

The catching position in the lower level is probably the strongest of any position. Alfaro, Skoug, Hickman, Perez, Cooper, and Colina are all legit or fringe prospects and are having a pretty good start to the year. I'm hoping one or two of them graduates to Low A soon. But of course, there's a lot more to a catcher than just hitting the ball. Can't tell how those guys are progressing outside of that department.

Don't know what's happening to Alex Call. He's extended his stay in AZL way beyond expectation. He's now an ugly 2 for 47 down there. It's not like he's striking out a ton, but just hitting an insane number of ground balls. P.S. He's blocking our water polo star down there.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 02:23 PM) Whatever it was, they obviously weren't going to spend it. This guy got $1.35 million to sign. Hopefully he is a late bloomer. So that's almost Adolfo money. Still a young guy. Even if he doesn't improve discipline, if he could develop double digit pop while staying at short, he could be an interesting B or C level prospect.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 10:35 PM) He really has no business still being down in the AZL. Skoug is defying logic, still has a BABIP of 1.000 after 15 plate appearances. You think he can keep it up?

I hope Hahn's starting price was Mookie Betts

Sucks for him but it's not the worst thing in the world for the team. He's pretty close to majors anyways but we aren't competing for the next year and a half. This only delays his service time to align more with the younger guys.

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 03:41 PM) But it's not baseball, windows are so much shorter in the NBA unless you're the Spurs or have Lebron. You basically have to wait out the current crop of prime superstars that all are willing to take less money to play with their buddies and hope the next crop isn't like that. Why does it matter? It's not like anyone would know if and where the free agents will join up next. We're just speculating if a team would be good in the future. What if the Celtics become like the Warriors, growing superstars through draft behind great coaching system, and a superstar actually flees his home team and join up with them. Celtics themselves could be a good landing spot for ring chasers in a few years.

QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 12:34 PM) Heyward just signed a 4 year deal and Horford has 3 left. Horford's already 31. Their window is within the next 2 years if those guys and Thomas are their big three. Brown is going into his second year and Tatum will be going into their first. Even if both guys end up being all-star caliber, it's going to be 3-4 seasons before they get there. If they aren't in win-now mode, then I'm not sure what Ainge is doing. It makes no sense spending money on Horford, Heyward and presumably Thomas if they are planning to wait another 2-3 seasons to really go for it. I don't disagree that they missed a golden opportunity with PG and Butler. Heck I even posted about it last week. It's just that they have so many young assets and picks stockpiled that they will likely be good for a long time.

QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 12:03 PM) They're not useless, but they're not as valuable. Celtics need veterans to round out their roster. They don't need prospects with upside. They're in win-now mode, not win 3 seasons from now. I think Ainge is making a mistake not cashing in his assets. You don't have to empty the shelf, but it's head scratching that he wouldn't trade one of those lottery picks for a legit star. If you're a Celtics fan, wouldn't you rather have Jimmy Butler over Tatum? I would. I disagree. Celtics by no means are in win now. Thomas and Horford aren't declining soon and they by no means are irreplaceable. They just were a rebuilding team that got better sooner than they expected. I think in Ainge's mind, Celtics' window is whenever they materialize their picks and Lebron starts to decline.

Ghengis Hahn has pillaged the local village this time.

It is an absolutely original joke I by no means stole from elsewhere on this forum. Oh it's true, it's damn true.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 10:04 PM) Anyone know why Moncada got pulled in the 9th inning and Bueno had to finish his at bat? Traded for $3.5M cash.

Gavin Sheets not showing a lot of power yet, but only 1 K in the first 41 plate appearances, I will take it!

The fact that we may end up trading Rodon just makes me sad. We had Sale, the best starter in AL, Quintana, the most underrated pitcher in the game, and Rodon, the most hyped college pitcher since Strasburg and we end up having to trade every one of them because we failed to be competitive. I remember when Rodon was drafted, we drooled over a 1-2-3 combination of Sale, Rodon and Quintana, and that it would give us one of the best rotations in the game. But we failed to finish above .500 even once.

Pitcher Starts IP/Start WAR K% BB% K-BB% Strike% IF/FB% HR/FB% Fastball (mph) Jose Quintana 96 6.3 13.9 22% 6% 16% 64% 11% 9% 91.8 Jon Lester 97 6.3 13.4 25% 6% 19% 64% 10% 11% 91.8 Found this on Fangraphs. They're basically the same pitcher the past 3 years. Lester gets more K for being in NL. Yet one has long been considered by many one of the top 5 left handers in the game and the other is a #3 starter. Gotta love advanced statistics in baseball.