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QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Sep 4, 2016 -> 02:00 PM) I don't think at this point Renaudo is a starting pitcher option in 2017. I don't think he's a major league option at this point. Guy throws BP.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Sep 1, 2016 -> 03:32 PM) Kevan Smith should be interesting. Guy who has a chance to stick around the big leagues as a backup. Still scary to think the Sox catching duo next year is scheduled to be Narvaez/Smith.

With Albers and his 6.19 ERA and 11.4 H/9 still on the team, I wouldn't hold my breath. If a 33 year old reliever has stuck around this long, I can't see them giving up on a 25 year old just yet.

I'd expect to see Coats, Garcia, Smith, and Purke up. Hopefully the Sox give Minaya and Goldberg a look too. Nothing really exciting. I hope they pass on Burdi this year and let him try to make it out of ST. No reason to rush him to the majors.

At the very least, Narvaez has solidified the backup catcher role. It's not like there's any competition for the spot.

Gotta love the genius who thought it would be a great idea to put a logo with a downward pointing arrow all over the ballpark. Anyone who has any basic design/marketing background knows you NEVER associate negative images with your brand. That arrow may work when talking low mortgage rates but it's a terrible idea associating it with a competitive baseball team. Subliminal messages stick, especially when it accurately defines the current state of the organization, haha.

Two "Sox" moves I could see happening that may be realistic are Puig and McCann. We know there's interest in both in the past, and it would be just like the White Sox way to try and catch lightening in a bottle with both.

QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Aug 10, 2016 -> 07:47 PM) You need Albers to come into the games where Shields can't get out of the second inning. He's been a good soldier. The Sox would be better off giving that time to players they should be evaluating. Albers future with this club ended back in June.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Aug 10, 2016 -> 07:29 PM) I liked Ranaudo's start. Like to see more. Agree there's no point in keeping Albers around. They gave Turner a try last night...I'll say this, Turner's still not a good reliever -yet- but he's massively improved from where he was as a starter. They are keeping Robertson around because he's still their 2nd to best reliever. But I would let him go for free on waivers and invest the savings elsewhere next year. Letting Robertson go for free would be a bad move. As disappointing as his season has been, there are teams that would like to have him in the bullpen come the offseason. The Sox are in a good position to be able to move him once the season is up. Judging value some relievers other teams got back, the Sox clearly were asking the moon for their major league pieces or actually think they can contend next season. They definitely dropped the ball, but I still think they could get a solid prospect or two in December for him. I wouldn't give up on him yet, he's not washed up.

I really like the Sox took this kid. It would be amazing if they had their version of McCann for the next 6+ seasons.

Man, at this rate I'll be surprised if any team has interest in him. Guy is more fragile than glass.

I'm not crazy about letting his clock start if he could potentially need the time in the minors. Rushing the few top prospects the team has when they are a few years away from competing seems odd to me.

QUOTE (flavum @ Aug 7, 2016 -> 03:48 PM) Ichiro getting a start today. Needs two for 3000. Could come next weekend vs the Sox. He only needs 1.

Narvaez has always struck out very little though. Just look at his minor league numbers, he has more career walks than K's. I don't think this guys a major league starter but I don't see why he couldn't have some value as a backup.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Aug 4, 2016 -> 09:59 AM) The 6-year WAR difference between 3-7 and 8-15 is 0.16. That might as well be 0. That tells me that a 3 pick and a 15 pick are functionally identical. I know that's not completely true, but that's the way the writer chose to group the information. And that's the range we're talking about with the Sox this year. Here's average bWAR by pick for drafts from 1991-2010. Unfortunately it's career WAR and not 6-year WAR, but I don't think that dilutes the point too much. Pick / Avg WAR 01 22.3 02 13.9 03 10.4 04 06.8 05 15.8 06 11.8 07 13.2 08 10.9 09 09.7 10 10.1 11 09.6 12 12.8 13 13.8 14 09.3 15 11.2 16 10.6 17 11.8 18 02.2 19 05.5 20 13.3 21 04.9 22 07.6 23 08.5 24 02.9 25 06.6 26 01.4 27 02.0 28 05.3 29 09.5 30 02.0 There's a downward slope to be sure, but once you get past the top spots, it doesn't matter that much until about 20th. Teams have done just as well picking 17th as they have picking 16th as they have picking 10th. I'm sure the differences by pick are even less pronounced in later rounds. I would rather have a higher pick because the extra money is good, but I'm not actively rooting for it. I can't sit there while I watch a game and think, "I hope Tim Anderson drives in Eaton and Saladino on a dinger but then Tommy Kahnle blows the lead." That's too much work. Good players pop up everywhere in the draft and that's what I choose to focus on. As far as getting top-10 protection, even that has less meaning for me this year. Is there anyone in their right mind who wants the Sox to sign a guy with a qualifying offer in 2017? Very interesting. Thanks for posting this.

QUOTE (daggins @ Aug 6, 2016 -> 09:42 AM) Really Narvaez and Kevan Smith should be the catching tandem in the final two months. DFA Navarro, he is a waste of a roster spot. I agree. They were quick to cut Danks, Rollins, and Latos but have to keep a catcher who can't catch or hit. Now that they're out of it, they really should be cutting guys loose that serve no benefit to playing. Play the kids and get the high draft pick.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Aug 3, 2016 -> 05:05 PM) Iy is just a crying shame for this kid and for Matt Davidson and K Smith. You never know if player can come back from those types of injuries, but to say we need to blow up the team because of injuries is a bit much I'm not saying to blow it up because a bunch of rookies got hurt. But these injuries point out a very bare minor league system. There are a lot of problems within this organization that are finally showing face this season. Depth is just one of them.

Wow, feel sorry for the guy. I really hope this doesn't destroy his career like what happened to Jared Mitchell (I know they had different injuries, but this doesn't sound good). If the Sox don't realize now they need to blow this team up IDK what will. The lack of even average-replacement level depth is embarrassing.

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 06:55 PM) "Three year plan" talk was a misstep "Mired in mediocrity" was a misstep Too many mistakes and if anything Hahn has revealed his true thoughts of the ballclub. I know nearly everyone commended him for the truth. However none of us will forget it, and now every move he makes/doesn't make will be based off of it. Couldn't agree more. Hahn has revealed he is incapable of being a GM and just as guilt of the status quo as the other two. Sick of the KW/JR handcuff excuses (and I used to be one of those people). He's a bad GM. "Mired in mediocrity" because the organization IS RUN by mediocrity from the top down. I'm not even upset that Sale or Q weren't traded, they really can't afford to miss on those deals. But I am floored that they couldn't move one or some combo of Frazier/Cabrera/Robertson/Gonzalez/Shields. Looking around both leagues and the trades that went down, there is little doubt in my mind that they didn't have any value on the market. They seriously need to stop trying to patch a sinking ship year after year and start selling. They'll be lucky to even get a top 10 pick in next years draft. This half-assed "re-tooling" is not working and hasn't been for the past decade. If someone would have told me the Padres would have had a better trade deadline I would have laughed in their face.

$20 says Robin plays Avi, Eaton, Cabrera tomorrow.

QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 07:51 PM) That's an interesting and encouraging article. Seems to be a lot of conflicting reports on Tilson. When they first announced the trade I read that he had a choppy swing which made him more of a ground ball hitter. I also read he was considered average as a defender and someone else posted that he had a weak arm. Then I read the Sox scouts rated him a terrific fielder and a line drive hitter. This seems somewhat in line with this article. I hope for once the Sox evaluated correctly. I'm looking forward to him starting most of the rest of the remaining games this season as the Sox centerfielder. If Robin plays Shuck or Garcia over him, I'll be pissed. Already preparing myself for that.

Finally a tweet mentioning both Sale and Q.

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 07:12 PM) It's a bit surprising to me we haven't heard a peep about Melky on the trade market. Has he been mentioned even once? Not that I can recall.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 06:10 PM) One thing Hahn has shown in the last 3+ years is a lot of patience. He's set a precedence with other GM's as someone who won't fold or budge much from his demands, I imagine. I'd hope so. I guess it's better than KW, who seemed to just keep on piling prospects into deals to get them done.

Wade Miley was just traded. Interesting to see what the Mariners were able to get.