Flash Tizzle

He’s another coward like the rest of them. “Jerry wants to win.” How!? How in the world are they going to create a contender entering next season? Even considering the weakness of the division, I’d say it’s near impossible.

Another legend passed, Terry Funk https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10087082-wwe-hall-of-famer-terry-funk-dies-at-age-79

I’m fooling myself to believe Getz and Moore are just filling positions until the team is sold, ideally before the offseason.

An extremely negative article breaks on Crain concerning the White two days ago, then yesterday - of all days - just happens to be the time they decide to fire Hahn and Williams? On a Tue? I’m willing to believe it was an attempt to distract from the relocation discussion.

I’m sure both sabotaged him, JR directly and KW indirectly through JR. That’s in addition to Hahn screwing himself over with one bad decision after another.

That’s what I’m wondering as well. Can you really hate JR more, knowing this information, than you did before?

Think about this from Reinsdorf perspective, he may not be alive when the stadium deal expires in six years. Crain is a very reputable publication, so he is definitely putting this out there to set the groundwork for getting what he wants — the best deal possible. If he can earn more from a potential buyer floating the idea of relocating the team, then that is what will happen. If the team remains in Chicago, there will be some significant improvements to the neighborhood and/or stadium on the backs of the taxpayer. Which will only be done with the purpose of enriching himself and the investors once the team is sold. If you just answer every question with, what will earn Jerry Reinsdorf the most money, you will probably be on the right track.

But we’ll be able to trade him in the winter when there are more teams looking for pitching!!!!!

He’s indirectly suggesting those traded were dealt to improve the clubhouse. A sly way of hinting that anything they’ve said cannot be considered truthful. Thats how I interpret Hahn speak in this instance

He cited Vaughn and Kopech’s roles as peacemakers during the fight as example of leadership on the team. Ok..

“Pedro has done a great job” well, that’s all I need to hear. I guess everything is going well, he said so.

I don’t believe the Grandal/TA issue distracts from Grifol, though. If anything it’s a direct example of his players doing whatever the hell they please without repercussion. And it also implicates Hahn because, there’s no way he didn’t know of that when it happened. He should’ve sent Grandal packing.

I’m less excited now hearing they’re both involved. Hahn will be giving “unwavering support for his manager”

I don’t know but i applaud the effort. Especially if this is all being done to force the hand of management. Keep the stories coming. Next one they should try to include Moncada

I do like how this is all accelerating and everything is coming out.

I thought it was flavum making up something, but the podcast headline is about a Grandal/Anderson physical altercation

If that’s it, I believe it’s fair. It acknowledges Ramirez started everything by mouthing off, approaching Anderson, then pointing a finger near his face. However, if it had ended there; would anything have happened? Maybe an ejection for Ramirez. Maybe. I would doubt anything more. But cmon, Anderson escalated it to being physical. If anything, he deserves even more time for wobbling down like Glass Joe after the punch to his face

I could see them having a few current players speak to the media in support of Grifol. To atleast give the illusion everything is ok and they publicly support their manager

These players look at the top and see a cheap owner who doesn’t seem to care, followed by a GM who has made minimal efforts to improve the roster during a supposed “championship window.” Then add in TLR’s hiring followed by Grifol’s low-energy hire. No one above them seemingly cares about winning or going outside their comfort zone. So the players of course, like our own children, push the boundaries. Who is going to say otherwise?

excellent. No way to spin this now, not just a lowly reliever commenting on these team issues.

Unloading Moncada should be our top offseason priority. It sure as hell won’t be building a contender. I’m sure the biggest problem is that JR will not be willing to eat much of the contract. If we were willing to pay half, someone/somewhere will find a spot for him in their infield.

You’re probably not going to get the corroboration you're looking for. IMO what’s more important is to look for players outside the organization (Kuechel, Gio, Lynn) and how they respond. If they respond at all. Realistically, we cannot expect someone on the team to say anything but positive remarks. It’s easy to believe Middleton because it would just go in line with everything we observe with the team. Also, it’s another embarrassing story about the team and at this point we’re all behind anything that may possibly lead to wholesale changes in the organization

Whatever the reason, Anderson embarrassed himself by starting the fight then being knocked on his ass. I felt like his reaction after the scuffle was only because his pride (and face) took a hit

I was thinking this as well. She is just summarizing everything instead of saying, well I talked with KW who talked with Hahn,who talked with me, who talked with JR who then gave approval for the trade. If there was some change behind the scenes, would anyone else be surprised that nothing leaked? That it would be a small quote from Kim Ng that broke it wide open? There was a ton of trade discussions across numerous teams. Some GM would have leaked the info to the media that Hahn isn’t involved in trade discussions, I’m sure.

Before that, Hahn should contact teams like Tampa or Atlanta with the false idea the White Sox are buyers and have a chance to compete with a couple shrewd trades. Then when those teams come to us with their proposals, after having scoured whatever “talent” is available in the minors, we tell them we’ve decided to change course and keep the players they’ve identified. Now we atleast know from trusted organizations who has potential! From there, trade whatever value we can receive for the players with 1 or 2 years left on their contracts